Biden experiencing troubled conscience over abortion, says Bishop Aquila
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Vice-president elect Joe Biden

.- Following the Fall meeting of the U.S. Catholic bishops in Baltimore, where they pledged not to yield ground to the incoming Obama administration on the issue of abortion, Bishop Samuel Aquila has revealed that vice president-elect Joe Biden is struggling with his conscience over his support for abortion.

Bishop Michael Hoeppner of Crookston, Minnesota and Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo, North Dakota are just two of the bishops who have increased their efforts to speak more forcefully and clearly on the issue of abortion over the last year.

In an interview with the Grand Forks Herald on Friday, Bishop Hoeppner explained the situation, saying, “We bishops are united in our teaching and our belief in the sanctity of all life. That’s not new, and it’s across the board, and some politicians have missed that.”

One particular threat to the unborn that the bishops are worried about is the Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA), which President-elect Obama said he would sign into law as his first act as president.

Bishop Aquila criticized Obama’s willingness to sign the Act in his most recent column for the Diocese of Fargo newspaper, writing that Obama “directly opposes the divine law of God concerning the dignity of each human life, and so he strongly disagrees with the position of the Catholic Church.”

Given the serious threats posed by FOCA and by Catholics with poorly formed consciences who vote in favor of keeping abortion legal, the U.S. bishops are redoubling their efforts to explain the Church’s teaching.  

In interviews with the Herald, both Aquila and Hoeppner pointed to vice president-elect Joe Biden, as an example of how some Catholics have become compromised on abortion.

During the recent presidential campaign, Joe Biden said that while he believes as a matter of faith that life begins at conception, he cannot impose his belief on others through law, and therefore can vote in favor of abortion.

Biden’s comments on NBC’s Meet the Press elicited reactionss from several bishops, one of whom was Charles Chaput of Denver.

“If, as Sen. Biden said, ‘I’m prepared as a matter of faith [emphasis added] to accept that life begins at the moment of conception,’ then he is not merely wrong about the science of new life; he also fails to defend the innocent life he already knows is there,” the archbishop said.

“Resistance to abortion is a matter of human rights, not religious opinion,” he added, arguing that law by nature involves imposing “some people’s convictions on everyone else.”

In his interview with the Grand Forks Herald on Friday, Bishop Aquila revealed that the soon-to-be vice president is experiencing pangs of conscience for his compromise.

“The nice thing about Biden, at least he says his conscience bothers him, which is good,” Aquila said.

Bishop Aquila argues that this stirring in their conscience needs to go further. “But they really should not be presenting themselves for Holy Communion because it is a scandal. And by us giving them Holy Communion, essentially what is communicated to them is that their position is fine.”

The Bishop of Tallahassee-Pensacola agrees with this as well. After a visit to his diocese by Biden during the presidential campaign, Bishop John Richard wrote to the politician and told him to examine his conscience about his support for laws that “fail to protect the unborn” before going to Communion.

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Published by: mary m evans
alma 11/25/2008 08:39 AM EST
It is laughable that the Bidens of the world don't want to impose their beliefs on others, they imposed abortion oon this nation against the beliefs of most Americans without giving a thought to it. Whenever you see such lies you know the father of lies is at work giving people rationalizations for their lives of lies.
Published by: Belle
Maryland 11/24/2008 11:02 PM EST
Well, Donna, as you can see a lot had been said
about abortion and it starts at the moment of conception. These unborn children according to God's plan are sent for
reason.
Suffice it to say that the holocaust of abortion is the no. 1 reason crying out to God for justice.
Published by: Jack Picknell
Burnaby BC Canada 11/24/2008 03:53 PM EST
Multiple Choice Question:

Biden is first and foremost a:
a) Politician
b) Catholic
c) Coward
Published by: JAngel
Bensalem/PA/USA 11/24/2008 01:26 PM EST
What amazes me is that some people say that religion should not have a part in govn't. Yet, we all make decisions on a set of beliefs, whether they are God driven or just personal. So, what makes it right for a person who is driven by personal or agnostic beliefs to enforce their Godless beliefs on others? I believe humanity is done a greater justice when decisions are driven by religious beliefs as they have, for the most, a solid foundation, God. While personal or agnostics beliefs are driven by the winds of change and for the most are self-centered.
Published by: Rolando Rodriguez
Port Orford, OR 11/24/2008 12:26 PM EST
Rate: Regular
law by nature involves imposing “some people’s convictions on everyone else.”
Bishop Aquila, one of our Pastors, occasions confusion, doubt & question, emphasized, highlighted & underscored by his seeming schadenfreude, admitting that “The nice thing about Biden, at least he says his conscience bothers him, which is good”. Salvation history through Scripture & Tradition reveals that God is love. Jesus’ last instructions to Peter were “Feed my sheep”. Yet Bishop Aquila argues that this stirring in their conscience needs to go further. “But they really should not be presenting themselves for Holy Communion because it is a scandal. And by us giving them Holy Communion, essentially what is communicated to them is that their position is fine.” A good shepherd guides & nourishes all of his sheep, not starving some of them just because they are sheep and he as shepherd can do so: they are all his flock. The Good Shepherd knows, cares for and gathers each & every one of his sheep, the wooly along with the unruly ones. He will not lose even one of them. He does not impose “law by nature” but invites us to love him by loving us first and waiting forever if necessary for us to return his love. God created us in his own image & likeness with free will, intellect and an immortal soul and then invited us to share his suffering, patience, & hopeful love that is fulfilled yesterday, today & forever. His will be done. Deo gratias.
Published by: Stan
UT 11/24/2008 12:04 PM EST
Biden? 'I can't impose my beliefs on others'?? so he plans to vote pro-abortion? So he is going to enforce the wrong beliefs on others instead of the right. This betrays an osmosis effect with the Clinton political speak. At best Biden seems to be morally 'washed up', certainly deserving of Church discipline.
Published by: tanarg
Cambridge, MA, US 11/24/2008 11:39 AM EST
Look at that headline, will you? And that lead paragraph, too.

Something's not quite right here.

How does the bishop know what Biden is doing? Has Biden confided in him?

And why would he "reveal" private information such as that?

This sort of thing is a bit odd, don't you think?

I wonder if the headline writer and the article writer didn't just get a little carried away.

At any rate, the story makes this Catholic very uncomfortable by its apparent stretching of the facts and its implied violation of the confidence of poor, misguided Biden.

Wrong as he is, should his interior struggles be treated this way? If, as I suspect, the writer of the article and the headline writer just got a bit carried away, I hope they revise this story and post a clarification that puts CNA on a better professional footing.
Published by: K
Belize 11/24/2008 03:48 AM EST
This quote from a Man for All Seasons --says it all- "If a politician forsakes his private conscience for the sake of his public office he sets his country on a short route to chaos " Lawyer St Thomas More ,Chancellor of England, lawyer --from Man for All Seasons
Published by: Frances
Thousand Oaks, Ca 11/24/2008 03:05 AM EST
I have fasted and prayed on my knees that God would give His best to lead US. God voted for Obama, Biden. Our prayers will do this rest. The sacrament of confession is availble for the Democrats. pray, pray pray as we watch Blessed Mother's intention come to fruition. I bost of Jesus and my Catholic faith. I have just returned from Holy Cross Hospital in Mission Hills, Ca recovering from a traumatic automobile accident. God blest me with a beautiful son, 3 grandsons and a wonderful daughter-in-law for whom I am eternally grateful. Can we ever return to God, who has given so much. Let's all pray Frank Pavone's pro-life rosary and contine to count on a Great God Who is still in charge of His Universe. Thanks you for the beautiful Padre Pio article on how we should act at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Moreover and neverthe less let us not give any soul an excuse for not attending Sunday Mass. Jesus came in the world to heal the sick. The well have no need for the Divine Healer. Noone wants abortion, the killing must stop. The prochoice question to our young is definitely to choose abstinece. In conscience we are well aware that sin separates us from God and His Heaven. Good night
Published by: anna lendak
mississauga,ontario,canada 11/24/2008 02:18 AM EST
This is an excellent approach to put these polititians into a corner. There can be no double standard. You are either Catholic and follow the teaching of the holy Church or you twist it choose your own explanation and (please) depart. There is no democracy in Her(understand Church) We have a hierarchy and them under the power of the Holy Spirit teach us right.Holy Communion is for those who are with Christ. Ask yourself a question:"What would Jesus do.... What would He say..." And we know the answer.Let us pray for our politicians that they get the light of the Holy Spirit.
Published by: Maryanne
Pittsburgh 11/23/2008 11:26 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
It is important that the Bishops state the pro-abortion politicians not present themselves for Holy Communion for 3 reasons. First, those who receive unworthily are jeopardizing their eternal life. Second, they are causing grave scandal and misleading the laity. Lastly, the Eucharist is the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of our Lord and the integrity of the Sacrament must be protected. Let us pray that the Bishops will have the courage to speak the truth.
Published by: Jane Boccuzzi
Peoria Il. 11/23/2008 11:04 PM EST
It is good to know, his conscience bothers him, but not enough. The bishops must get together and enforce the law of the church.
Pro-choice people cannot have it both ways.
Published by: Rose Solanet
Kennett Square,PA,USA 11/23/2008 10:23 PM EST
Biden the same as Pilate,goes against Christ but like Pilate knowing the truth and does the contrary makes it a sacrilege!!The priest that gives him the Holy communion makes a sacrilege too!!
Published by: Clare
West Fargo,ND 11/23/2008 08:35 PM EST
We thank God for our Bishop Aquila. He has been a true shepherd for the Diocese of Fargo. We pray for more bishops to speak out.
Published by: Robert Barnett
Santa Rosa, CA 11/23/2008 07:41 PM EST
Pray for our "leaders," to Convert.
Published by: James
Tampa/FL 11/23/2008 07:17 PM EST
Let us dare to hope, hearts can change! For the sake of the one soul and the sake of all the lives on the line with the pathetically named, Freedom of Choice Act.
Published by: Albert
Ridgecrest, CA USA 11/23/2008 05:34 PM EST
Good for you, bishops! It's great to see that the bishops are standing up to "powerful" dissident members of their flock. Glory to Jesus Christ!
Published by: Phil Garringer
Colton, NY USA 11/23/2008 03:15 PM EST
I am sure there were some Nazi camp guards who had bothered consciences. Some slave overseers int he ante-bellum south probably felt bad sometimes about the whole thing.

I don't believe Joe Biden. Actions, Joe. Your party is well known for "feeling" things, but not doing things.

The bishops need to step up and excommunicate some of the pro-death politicians. These pro-deathers are not going to change their minds. They sold out for power years ago.
Published by: Richard A
Lansing, MI USA 11/23/2008 03:14 PM EST
As president of the Senate (has he learned yet that that's in the VP's job description?) he may get a chance to vote on FOCA. Which way would he go? If it's passed and signed into law, will his conscience oblige him to resign as Vice President?
Published by: Betty G. Armendarez
Owensboro, Ky., U.S.A. 11/23/2008 03:00 PM EST
If you don`t accept Catholic teaching,why call yourself Catholic?This grieves me to the very depth of my soul!
Published by: Arline
Daytona Beach, FL-USA 11/23/2008 02:51 PM EST
It's so decent and refreshing that some of our Bishops are finally standing up for God's Laws in spite of whom it involves, VP or not. One of God's Commandments, Thou Shalt Not Kill, is not to be broken under penalty of hell. I wish ALL the Clergy would get together and finally take a stand in ONE voice for us Catholics! By verbally disagreeing, it only creates confusion. Stand up men of the cloth and be true Shepherds of the Lord as you were called to be!
Published by: michael
san francisco california usa 11/23/2008 02:33 PM EST
john paul ll said hell is more of a state of being then a place.....
the exact conscience that biden has now will be the same one he has after he dies.
the body dies but the conscience of a soul doesn't die.
hillar outrightly rejects god therefore her thinking is that her concience won't bother her after death.
what will bother her is seeing her daughter in hell being tortured by demons .
hillary leads her own daughter into hell by teaching her pro-abortion choices .
hillary has no idea what god has prepared for her concience once in hell ..........niether does biden ........ god hides these eternal punishments .......his secrets alone to be discovered after death by biden , hillary , pelosi , keryy , kennedy and all the pro abortion catholics who voted for obama.......thier eternally tortured consciences will be thier just reward for leading little ones away from heaven.....hillary teaches her daughter to vote pro abortion and biden teaches his military son to vote anti catholic pro choice abortion......for power they will sell not only thier own souls but those of thier children...
Published by: Philip Saenz
Houston/Tx/USA 11/23/2008 02:10 PM EST
I'm glad soon to be Vice President Joe Biden has a conscience. However, it seems that Barack Hussein Obama has no conscience at all. Obama voted for infanticide three times. I indeed would be a very cruel person if I didn't care for the life of a baby.
Published by: Nancy
Louisville, KY, US 11/23/2008 01:46 PM EST
I am so glad to hear that Biden's conscience is getting the better of him. The decision to take a human life is not only a religious decision, but a moral one. Have we fallen so far into the abyss as to not recognize sin?
Published by: Pam
Las Vegas, Nevada 11/23/2008 01:33 PM EST
"BY THY HOLY AND IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, O MARY, DELIVER US FROM EVIL."--Prophetic prayer taught by Our Lady of America to Sister Mary Ephrem, Convent of the Sisters of the Precious Blood in 1956.
Published by: Carol Caughlan
Fort Collins,Co,USA 11/23/2008 01:14 PM EST
That is all fine and good about Biden's conscience but WHY can't ALL the Bishops get on board about the Communion issue.As a Catholic I thought ALL Catholics and Clergy are suppose to follow follow the teachings of the Church.Not pick and choose what they will follow.
I don't believe that Jesus instituted a "cafeteria".
Published by: antran
Atlanta GA 30310 USA 11/23/2008 12:00 PM EST
God is merciful and ready to forgive if the wayward faithful repents. I am of the opinion that God bless both Bishop Richard and Sen. Biden.
Published by: Maryann Boaden
Toledo, Ohio 11/23/2008 11:38 AM EST
I hope and pray that his conscience does bother him A LOT!!!!
Published by: Mary Lou Raab
Presidio/Texas/U.S.A. 11/23/2008 10:20 AM EST
It is not just a personal faith "belief " that human life begins at conception .It has always been and now with our modern scientific advances , is all the more proven that a human life starts at the moment of conception ( a FACT not just a faith belief) and Mr. Biden needs to understand THAT FACT !
Published by: Mare
Bethlehem, Pa, 18015 11/23/2008 10:16 AM EST
When I heard Biden say that, I thought of all the Catholics in Congress, who might have missed catechism class, or are ignoring it? there immortal souls are in danger, and they can not server two Masters, As for Maria Swartanager, and her statement on what she will pick and choose, what a Catholic example doesnt she relize the gravity of her statement,
Published by: Carolyn
Fresno, CA, USA 11/23/2008 09:35 AM EST
The Bishops are speaking out - however, too little too late.

Bishops needed to be speaking out for the lives of the unborn - with the Church teaching on life - from the moment of conception since 1973 and Roe decision....
Published by: Carolyn
Surrey, B.C. 11/23/2008 08:52 AM EST
prayer for Biden and Obama and prayer joined with fasting particularly can change hearts. This is our only hope. The unborn and all those who are defenseless must be protected from those who are convinced that they should be disposed of.
Published by: Marilyn Krocheski
Ames, Iowa 11/23/2008 08:09 AM EST
I believe that those "so called Catholics" should be excommunicated immediately if they vote for FOCA, so as not to bring any more scandal into the already scandalized Church which was scandalized by wolves in sheep clothing and heretics.
Published by: Anita
Boca Raton,Fl. USA 11/23/2008 12:56 AM EST
His conscience should bother him if he claims to be a worshipping Catholic. What he believes goes directly against what Jesus teaches us.
Published by: Rolando Rodriguez
Port Orford, OR 11/23/2008 12:37 AM EST
law by nature involves imposing “some people’s convictions on everyone else.”
Bishop Aquila, one of our Pastors, occasions confusion, doubt & question, emphasized, highlighted & underscored by his seeming schadenfreude, admitting that “The nice thing about Biden, at least he says his conscience bothers him, which is good”. Salvation history through Scripture & Tradition reveals that God is love. Jesus’ last instructions to Peter were “Feed my sheep”. Yet Bishop Aquila argues that this stirring in their conscience needs to go further. “But they really should not be presenting themselves for Holy Communion because it is a scandal. And by us giving them Holy Communion, essentially what is communicated to them is that their position is fine.” A good shepherd guides & nourishes all of his sheep, not starving some of them just because they are sheep and he as shepherd can do so: they are all his flock. The Good Shepherd knows, cares for and gathers each & every one of his sheep, the wooly along with the unruly ones. He will not lose even one of them. He does not impose “law by nature” but invites us to love him by loving us first and waiting forever if necessary for us to return his love. God created us in his own image & likeness with free will, intellect and an immortal soul and then invited us to share his suffering, patience, & hopeful love that is fulfilled yesterday, today & forever. His will be done. Deo gratias.
Published by: lois fleming
Greer,sc 11/23/2008 12:31 AM EST
Adoration and devotion to Our Lady, can overcome the greatest obstacles.Request by EMail the 3 Hail Mary devotion leaflets from CatholicRadio SC.
Published by: Leo Petit, M.S.C.
Center Valley, PA, USA 11/23/2008 12:02 AM EST
We must pray that God give all of us a deeper, stronger faith and trust in the mercy of the heart of Jesus in our own hearts.
Published by: Bill Carrico
Radcliff, Ky 11/22/2008 09:32 PM EST
Many voting Catholics living today are poorly catechized, ultimately sometimes their own fault, if they have failed to learn the truth. The recent election proves that. They do not understand and hence do not support the position of the Church for which they call themselves a member. Obedience to the truth is a defining mark of real love. Suggesting that terminating a human life is a personal choice outside of the realm of the person being terminated suggest that one life is better than another and flies in the face of every person's superior right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Published by: Katherine Frelk
Gurnee, IL USA 11/22/2008 07:09 PM EST
It is very important for Catholics to HEAR the Bishops speak clearly and unified on the sanctity of life.Catholic parishes and schools also have a duty to educate clearly. With prayer there's hope. Nothing happens without God willing or allowing it but confirmed Catholics have a duty to know their faith and share it with much love!
Published by: Sylvia Santillano
Mesa, AZ USA 11/22/2008 06:22 PM EST
I agree that if you are Catholic you should not have voted for pro-choice, this is intrinsically evil. Most of this Catholics know the Catholics Church stands on abortion, and they chose to kill the innocent. We continue to pray for our Pro-Choice politicians.

JMJ save souls.
Published by: Amy, MEV
Deming, NM, USA 11/22/2008 06:10 PM EST
Let us pray, pray, pray for his conversion!!!!
Published by: Jeff Johnson
Collegeville, Mn 11/22/2008 04:55 PM EST
When I read about this, I understand why this country is so messed up. Many Catholics are like Biden. They believe that life begins at conception, and then turn around and bizarrely claim that they believe in that magic euphemism called "choice."

Which choice does Biden and other confused Catholics believe in? If they believe in a woman's "right to choose," they assent to both consequences, life, and alternately its destruction at the hands of sharp stainless steel instruments.

Abortion is murder. Pro choice means pro abortion, by dead simple logic. Biden knows this, but his will to power and greed for fame trump whatever "conscience" we are talking about here.

There is no turning back for him; he punched his ticket, and just might have sold his soul like Dr. Faustus for power.
Published by: Donna Hughes
Iowa, USA 11/22/2008 04:00 PM EST
I think Joe Biden's attitude toward abortion is exactly right. You may believe that life begins at conception, but I don't see it as a person until the fetus is able to live outside the womb. Before that any number of conditions might cause a miscarriage anyway. Your beliefs are NOT my beliefs. I do not see why a public servant has any right to impose his religious belief system onto others, if it is not also the law of the land. I respect Joe Biden's attitude about the matter far more than I do that of the Catholic, or any other church that thinks that their religious beliefs ought to be observed by all.
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