Brownback talks to Giuliani, Catholics for Brownback “outraged”
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Politicians Rudy Giuliani and Sam Brownback

.- Senator Sam Brownback, the Kansas Republican who sought the Republican presidential nomination on a socially conservative platform, is considering supporting former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's candidacy.  He met with the former mayor on Thursday to discuss his position on abortion.

“I’m going to meet with him and I’m going to talk to him and hear what he is specifically saying now because he’s changed on a number of the abortion issues,” Brownback said in an interview with The Hill. “He’s changed on partial-birth [abortion] and he … has said he would appoint strict constructionists” to the Supreme Court.

Giuliani’s Pro-Abortion Credentials

Many social conservatives consider Giuliani to be a very weak candidate. They cite his pro-abortion positions and connections, which include support for federal funding of abortions, making abortion available at any stage of pregnancy, support for partial-birth abortion and receiving several donations from Planned Parenthood. Giuliani’s approval of homosexuality is another reason that he is seen as an unfit candidate for the Republican nomination by many.

Elizabeth Shipp of NARAL Pro-Choice America told The Huffington Post in an Oct. 10 story that “it ‘would help’ the abortion rights movement if Giuliani proves it's possible a pro-choice candidate can win the Republican nomination and the presidency.”

Federal tax returns made public by the former New York mayor also show that he and his then-wife, Donna Hanover, made personal donations to national, state and city chapters of Planned Parenthood totaling $900 in 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999.

Political Strategy
 
Some political strategists consider a Brownback endorsement as a “back door” way for Giuliani to gain supporters from the conservative Brownback base.  Before dropping out of the race, Brownback had over 45,000 registered supporters in the key election state of Iowa. 

Sources familiar with Brownback’s campaigning in Iowa have told CNA that he has strong support among conservative Catholics as well, much of it organized through the group "Catholics for Brownback." The group claims hundreds of Iowan Catholics at the grassroots level who were willing to campaign for the former candidate because of his supposedly strong pro-life stance.

Reaction

According to Jay Heine, Brownback's political director in Iowa, an endorsement could happen because Brownback and many of his supporters believe Giuliani has the best chance of defeating Senator Hillary Clinton, the expected Democratic nominee.

The possibility that Brownback is likely to endorse Giuliani has left “Iowa moms and Catholics outraged," according to a Catholics for Brownback source who contacted CNA.

Speaking of the potential Brownback endorsement, Ross K. Baker, a professor of political science at Rutgers University said, “It would be absolutely huge. It would mean that Giuliani is getting support from a part of the Republican Party that has been hostile to him."

“Brownback is very well-respected,” he added. “It would give a lot of social conservatives and evangelicals cover if they want to support Giuliani.”

Others were not enthusiastic about the possible endorsement.  Kim Lehman, president of Iowa Right to Life Committee and a member of the Iowans for Brownback Leadership Committee, said she would be stunned if Brownback supported Giuliani.

“I find it simply hard to believe because Giuliani has expressed his position to even pay for abortion,” she said.

However, after meeting with Giuliani, Brownback seemed to have changed his tune to the dismay of his Catholic supporters. “While he didn't endorse the ex-mayor, he praised him as an "excellent leader" and said he was "much more comfortable" with Giuliani's views on abortion and gay rights issues after the meeting,” according to the Washington Post.

Asked by reporters in a brief press conference after the meeting with Giuliani if he could support a "pro-choice" nominee, Brownback said "I don't know that he described himself...as a pro-choice candidate" and then said he wanted to let Giuliani explains his own view.

Brownback has not yet endorsed Giuliani, but a source from the senator's campaign team has said that the senator will decide which candidate to endorse within the next month.

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Subscriber comments:
Published by: Wily Mo
Little Rock AK USA 10/27/2007 07:58 PM EST
HE WONT SUPPORT RUDI! RUDI IS A HORRIBLE CATHOLCI CANIDATE. THE III WIFED MAN WHO SUPPORTS GAYS AND ABORTION. BRONBACK WILL ENDORSE SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN, THE BEST CANADATE.
Published by: Dorothy & Clarence Clark
Silver Lake, NY , USA 10/27/2007 05:24 PM EST
Is there any way to get a message to Brownback?
I am not Catholic but I am a New Yorker outraged and cannot believe Brownback would even consider Giuliani. He should back Huckabee!
Published by: Anne
Albany NY USA 10/27/2007 01:48 PM EST
I would bring a lighning rod Sam.
It seems whenever Rudy starts finessing his abortion stance there is a lot of lightning involved.
The video of that debate is probably still on You Tube.
Mighty is my God and it seems His patience is wearing thin...
Published by: Janet Gabonay
Herminie, PA 10/27/2007 11:32 AM EST
Amazing. If Sen. Brownback does support Giuliani and he gains GOP candidacy, it will be a sorry day and i will stay home from voting.
Published by: Violet Uliana
Bethlehem PA USA 10/27/2007 11:22 AM EST
It is very difficult, if not impossible, to find the perfect candidate. The Pres does not make laws for abortion and Guiliani does not campaign FOR abortion as some of the candidates do, but
Guiliani is needed right now to get us out of the war,which I think he can do.
Published by: P. A. Williams
Franklin, TN 10/27/2007 09:37 AM EST
I do not understand the push that so-called social conservatives are making to support the selection of Giuliani to be the GOP presidential candidate. It would be one thing if he had already received the nomination, but why are they trying to make him the nominee. Why not help give us a real conservative to vote for in the first place. I am not fooled by the lies/assurances of Giuliani or the so-called social conservatives pushing for his nomination. He is pro-abortion! Judges aren't the only thing, even if they are of immense importance. Would Rudy veto pro-abortion legislation, ie. the pro-abortion (subtle though it was) language found in the SCHIP bill that President Bush vetoed? Will the Mexico City Policy remain in tact with a Giuliani presidency? I don't trust him, and I won't vote for him. Period! And I'm certainly not the only one, so the GOP needs to think very hard about their view that Giuliani is the only one who can defeat Clinton. I'm beginning to think that they actually want Clinton elected. This will not get them the Catholic vote. Catholics often trend towards fiscal liberalism and it is the Abortion issue that often sways them towards Conservative candidates. If they lose that, they might as well vote for the liberal Liberal. Wake up, GOP!
Published by: Philip Saenz
Mathis, TX 78368 USA 10/27/2007 09:16 AM EST
What proof do we have that Rudy Giuliani will not nominate activist judges if he becomes president? Giuliani would have to swear with one hand on the Bible and appoint Senator Brownback as his running mate before I could believe him that he would not appoint liberal, activist judges to the highest court in the land. We need more judges like Alito, Roberts, and Thomas. So there you have it, friends. Make Rudy swear on a Bible!
Published by: HaroldC
Walkertown, NC 10/27/2007 08:10 AM EST
It is erroneous to consider Brownback pro-life. He is certainly opposed to abortion, thankfully. But because of his support for the war in Iraq, an unjust war, he should not be considered fully pro-life.
Published by: Jeffrey Anderson
Prior Lake, MN 10/27/2007 07:41 AM EST
Giuliani and Clinton are both unacceptable for Catholic voters, as both are anti-life candidates both in the abortion realm as well as foreign policy/warmongering realm. As a traditional Roman Catholic and Navy sailor I will be voting for Ron Paul, a man who does not compromise his principles, and is rated 100% pro-life!
Brownback needs to do the charitable thing as a fellow Catholic and chastize Giuliani for his denial of Church teaching and then have nothing to do with him if he will not change.
Published by: Ted English
New Jersey 10/27/2007 06:50 AM EST
I will never vote for pro-abortion candidate Rudy even if it means Hilary gets in. I will be encouraging all fellow Republicans to do the same. At least Hilary although I cannot stand her positions is consistant. Rudy is lukewarm which is worse so says Holy scipture - God will vomit him out of his mouth. If he stood strong he would win just like Ronald Reagan. Where are the Ronald Reagans of today?
Published by: Joseph Wagner
Sarasota Fl. USA 10/27/2007 06:36 AM EST
Hi!

Brownback is two faced.Must be something in it for him? I hope Giuliani gets embarrassingly defeated.

Joe W.
Published by: Kathy
Escalon, CA USA 10/26/2007 11:08 PM EST
This is very disappointing. As a prolife voter, Sam Brownback was my choice but he will never convince me to vote for Giuliani. He's just another liberal registered as a republican. We have one of those in California already.
Published by: Lawrence Rosano
Elmont, New York 10/26/2007 10:34 PM EST
Previously, I supported Brownback For President, yet after his support for Guiliani, I am dropping my Brownback support because of this: Oon the one hand, if he is weak enough to be politically seduced by Gguiliani, who is one who leans proabortion, then, on the other hand, , then, I can not trust him. Period.
Published by: Joe Lawson
Cocoa, Florida 10/26/2007 08:20 PM EST
If Sam Brownback endorses Rudy Guiliani or Mitt Romney Pro Life Catholics should be outraged that they ever supported him.

There are only three true Pro Life Republicans left in the field. Duncan Hunter, Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo
Published by: theodosi
dubuque,iowa,usa 10/26/2007 08:12 PM EST
Ron Paul is Pro-life and has delivered over 4,000 babies. He wants to end Roe V. Wade, come on over!
Ron's son is Catholic and so am I. P.S. He has written wonderful things about JPII.
Published by: paddyjoe
Sacramento, Ca. U.S.A. 10/26/2007 03:45 PM EST
If this is true, then I can only say it's a good thing Brownback has revealed himself for the phoney he is before too many of us were duped into supporting him. This (again assuming it is true, and I have a hard time believing it in spite of all the evidence) Brownback makes Pelosi, Kerry and the others look good by comparison. Even Juliani has at least the honesty to say who and what he is.
Published by: John Zubalik
Reisterstown,MD,USA 10/26/2007 01:05 PM EST
Politics, being a business of Stealth, back room deals, and saying the right thing at the right time, make it hard to know how a candidate will behave if elected.Perhaps Senator Brownback has succombed to the Party Line of supporting the 'front-runner'. However, this election is being rushed, and there is plenty of time to glean the Candidates positions. For now, Let's Pray on it!
Published by: eugene mc master
los alamitos, CA, USA 10/26/2007 12:11 PM EST
is there anyway we can pressure Brownback to endorse a real pro-life conservative such as Huckabee or Paul to send a message to GOP
Published by: Bill Donahue
Danville, IL, USA 10/26/2007 12:00 PM EST
If there is going to be an endorsement, it ought to go to a pro-life candidate. A lot of people backed Senator Brownback and even supported him in e-mails to Catholics. To depart now would leave the impression that you cannot trust a politician. I hope Senator Brownback will stay true to his original message and not dilute it. Standing firm would send a strong message. Integrity counts.
Published by: Christopher McCaffrey
East Brunswick/ NJ/ USA 10/26/2007 11:59 AM EST
I lived in New York City when Rudolph Giuliani ran for mayor, and I refused to vote for him because of his pro-abortion position and actions. It is disingenuous for Senator Brownback to say that he is unaware of Mayor Giuliani's pro-abortion opinions. If he lived in N.Y.C. during Mayor Giuliani's terms in office, he would not have had any doubts. Rudolph Giuliani sadly wore his pro-abortion position like a badge of honor while mayor of New York City.
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