Connecticut bill on Catholic Church nearly identical to Voice of the Faithful strategy
New Tactics: Influencing the Church through Civil Legislation
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Dr. Paul Lakeland

.- Catholics around the country are upset over a new bill in the Connecticut Senate that, in the words of the Archbishop of Hartford, "forces a radical reorganization of the legal, financial, and administrative structure of our parishes." The bill, which bears resemblance to Voice of the Faithful’s Strategic Plan, is being supported by Dr. Paul Lakeland, who believes that in this case it’s appropriate to use state legislation to force the Church’s hand.

Dr. Paul Lakeland, Fairfield University Chair of Catholic Studies, Voice of the Faithful member, former Jesuit Priest, and author of several books including “The Liberation of the Laity: In Search of an Accountable Church,” recently discussed his support for Connecticut’s controversial Bill No. 1098 with CNA. Dr. Lakeland is also scheduled to testify before the Connecticut General Assembly on behalf of the bill.

The premise of the bill is remarkably similar to the 2009-2010 Voice of the Faithful Strategic Plan. “The VOTF,” as Dr. Lakeland explains, “grew up in response to the sex abuse scandals here. One of the things that became rapidly apparent, among both liberals and conservatives, was the sense that the bishops hadn’t done a very good job of handling this.”

Explaining his connection to the bill Dr. Lakeland said, “I’m connected to [the bill] to this degree: I’ve been working pretty closely with Tom Gallagher, who’s a Greenwich businessman, who has been behind the push to get the state government to do something about this. Even though, I don’t think, even he was involved in putting the legislation together.”

Upon further investigation, Tom Gallagher seems to be more than just a Greenwich businessman, and to have more than just a passive role in lobbying legislators for the change. In a Voice of the Faithful article titled, “The Money Trail: Financial Management and Mismanagement in the Diocese of Bridgeport,” Joseph O’Callaghan quotes ‘Attorney’ Tom Gallagher multiple times. The article spells out the following principles for reform:

“[...] The same principles should be applied to diocesan property. The diocesan corporation should include elected representatives from each of the eighty-seven parishes, who in turn would elect two directors from each of the five vicariates.

The bishop, one of the three vicars general, and the chancellor should be ex officio members, but elected representatives of the laity should comprise the majority of the diocesan corporation, its directors, and its officers.

Implementation of this proposal will necessitate changes in both canon and civil law.”

“Attorney Tom Gallagher has already initiated discussion with state legislators about changing the law regulating parish and diocesan corporations. Members of VOTF should lend their support to this effort.”

O’Callaghan’s VOTF article offers a blueprint that is nearly identical to the bill now being considered by the Connecticut Senate, and could explain why Sen. McDonald told the Hartford Courant that the idea came from parishioners in Darien and Greenwich, where Gallagher is a church member.

Dr. Lakeland also acknowledged his own membership with Voice of the Faithful, by saying “It’s funny, I work with them, but being a member is a very vague thing. I suppose most people would consider me a member, I don’t pay any dues…I think most people would consider me a member, yes.”

Membership in Voice of the Faithful grew rapidly, immediately after sexual abuse allegations in the Northeast, but after new child protection policies were implemented around the country, membership began to plateau.

When asked about the anti-hierarchal nature of Voice of the Faithful, Dr. Lakeland explained, “There’s a spectrum of opinions. You will certainly find people in the VOTF that are deeply anti-clerical and ‘the sooner that we have women bishops the better’ and you find many people that are far more moderate than that…To find out who speaks for Voice of the Faithful, you’ll have to go the website to answer that question.”

Voice of the Faithfull’s website admits in an online video, “In the past, we’ve had trouble defining who we were; we’ve had a branding issue which has hurt our fundraising ability” In response, their leadership has clearly spelled out a new strategic approach, which broadens its previous focus on protecting children, to embrace an agenda aimed at reducing the power of the hierarchy, eliminating a celibate priesthood and introducing female priests.

Critics, including Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, charge that this new bill is a direct attack on the Church and that it is “a thinly-veiled attempt to silence the Catholic Church on the important issues of the day, such as same-sex marriage.”

"If this bill were to be enacted,” warned Bishop Lori, “your bishop, would have virtually, virtually no real relationship with the 87 parishes…they could go off independently, some of them could break off from the Church if they wished, and go their own way as has happened, for example, with the Episcopal Church. And the pastors would be figureheads, simply working for a board of trustees," he said last Friday.

The proposed legislation, S.B. 1098, aims to reorganize the internal structure of the Church, removing the bishop as the head of the board of the parishes in his diocese and requiring the pastor to report finances to a board composed of laity, instead of the bishop. Under the bill, the bishop is also relegated to being an "ex officio" member of the board, without voting rights.

Dr. Lakeland believes, in this specific case, that it’s appropriate to use local and state legislation to “put the subject out there for discussion,” and further explained that the Voice of the Faithful developed out of “frustration with the Institutional Church.”

Claiming that he was not responsible for drafting the bill, Dr. Lakeland echoed comments made by Sen. Andrew McDonald, who introduced the bill. “This bill doesn’t have anything to do with Catholic faith. It’s got to do with organization of the parish community…I would certainly be deeply opposed to any efforts of the legislature to throw off legislation on the Catholic faith.”

Describing the two Congressmen that wrote the bill, Andrew McDonald and Michael Lawlor, Dr. Lakeland strangely claimed, “I don’t think they support the bill, I think they just wrote the bill. If they didn’t write it, then I don’t know who [in the legislature] would.”

Supporters of Senate Bill 1098 argue that the proposed legislation is only about transparency and openness of financial matters. Yet, Anthony Picarello, General Counsel of the U.S. Conference of Bishops described the bill as “blatantly unconstitutional” and that it “targets the Catholic Church explicitly and exclusively, and attempts to use the civil law to alter Church governance.”

When questioned about how the bill would sever a bishop’s ties to each parish and strip him of his voting rights, Dr. Lakeland conceded, “The legislation as it stands is a little extreme. I don’t think I’m giving away any secrets here, I don’t think most people, even those in favor of it imagine it becoming law in its present form.”

Asked if there would be implications for the entire U.S. Catholic Church, he confidently responded, “Oh, I think it would, and I think if passed in Connecticut, the pressure to pass it in many of the other states in the union would be enormous.”

In the wake of the bill’s introduction last Thursday, negative responses from Catholics and bishops around the country have been heard.

But Dr. Lakeland responded by defending the bill, saying, “I think legislation that moves in this direction frees the bishop and the pastor from a whole lot of stress producing tasks and managerial responsibility…and I think it will be good for them. If I were a bishop, I’d welcome it!”

At the root of the issue, he explained, is that “Bishops don’t see or get, for whatever reason that grownup adults, active, committed laypeople, provide pretty much all the financial resources to their Church and have no say in how that money is spent.”

Both Voice of the Faithful and Dr. Lakeland also agree that if this legislation had already been in place, the Catholic Church would have avoided much of the financial fallout from the sexual abuse scandals, containing the financial responsibility to individual parishes.

Concluding his support for the bill he said, “I see absolutely no chance whatsoever of the Institutional Church making a change in this direction without pressure from somewhere outside the Church. There’s not even the most remote likelihood that the Church would adjust in this direction itself. I think this is a way of putting pressure on them to make changes and bringing the issue into a more prominent setting.”

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Subscriber comments:
Published by: Mary
Ormond Beach 03/18/2009 09:18 AM EST
Our Church is being attacked...so is all religions...please pray for our country...and the sad people whom were abused...by all walks of life are being abused...the tv stations are full of horror stories of abuse...what should we do...but just pray...this abuse was here for thousands of years now...look at the life of St. Maragaret...(this is why we should study the saints as well as the bible) her parents were ashamed of her physical body's blindness,etc. threw her on the street...
after boarding her up in a room for almost all her life...
Our church has made mistakes awful ones...we are not perfect...God is the only one...pray for our sins...remember that word...He will see to who hurt others...I have my faults and so do all of us. Crime is always with us...pray for us sinners...the state not matter which one should dictate what the church should or should not do...this bill or others like it are truly an attack against us...God Help Us...Thank you for letting me vent my love for our church...and all it's faults and good that it does...
Published by: Woolery
Franklin, IN 03/17/2009 05:41 PM EST
Today, unfaithful Jerusalem (Luke 21:20) pictures unfaithful Christendom.
Political nations within the UN will devastate her, but not yet begun taking its threatening position against false religion. It is inevitable because terrorists such as Al-Qaeda are targeting political nations, not religious organizations. Soon governments will confiscate ALL religious bank accounts and property. They will probably imprison clergymen and possibly kill them. The Truth, as Jesus did, will be knocking on your doors.
Published by: Bourbour
Florida 03/15/2009 12:13 PM EST
I believe we are all missing one point. God gave us "freedom of choice". It is one declaration proclaimed through old and new testament. It furthers its roots in every religious book known to man. Given Freedom of Choice, we have the right to reject anything not declared through God. Yet, God gives no rights of intervening upon any religious order. We all have the right to practice our beliefs. I believe that was included in the Declaration of Independence.
Published by: Warren
Aurora, IL 03/13/2009 08:12 PM EST
This is just another attack against the Catholic Church; it is another chance for a frustrated person to get attention and publicity. The Church as repented for its mistake and has been turning towards the better. The former priest cannot take this because it means he will no longer be the center of attention.
Published by: Jean
Sacramento,CA.USA 03/13/2009 06:23 PM EST
Voice of the Faithful is all I need to know! They are out to destroy the Catholic Church which is 2000 years old and will NOT be destroyed by the likes of them.
Maybe they should call upon the so-called Poliicians who are turning our country into a Socialistic nation and just form their own church with their own rules. The real Catholic church does NOT need any of them. Their day will come. And God is in charge, not them!!!!!!!
Published by: Dan
Newark, CA 03/13/2009 04:09 PM EST
It seems that Dr. Lakeland being an ex-priest could be more Christ-centric and less egocentric. I ask all faithful Catholics to join me and pray for him: that the Holy Trinity enlighten him.
Published by: Mrs. L. Haase
Derby, CT, USA 03/13/2009 02:15 PM EST
Dr. Lakeland is an EX-priest, Folks, for anyone who might even begin to agree with him.
He makes me feel embarrassed for my beautiful little Home State.
He, Biden, Pelosi, Kerry, et al, may well start their own so-called church. They can be the Liberal Christians of America. They cannot be ROMAN CATHOLICS (but they cling to Catholicism; will not let it go; but want things their way. We cannot be "cafeteria Catholics," as explained by Pope John Paul II.
The day will come when every one of us will face a higher Court; best to "repent now and avoid the rush!"
Published by: E.D.Maruyama
Japan 03/13/2009 03:42 AM EST
I hope this message will reach Dr. Paul Lakeland. As a former Jesuit priest, why don't you try and ask for MERCY VERY HARD to remember the day when you entered priesthood. Are you not afraid of the possible consequences of what you are doing? I know that you still have conscience in you, why don't you repent, specially for this lent and for the good of your soul. I will pray for you and your fellow supporters of this wrong ideas and actions that you may get out from darkness.PLEASE be reconciled to GOD before it's too late. I really feel sorry for you. God bless you.
Published by: sh
us 03/11/2009 09:29 PM EST
Rate: Regular
Is there a more corrupt organization than the Catholic Church Hierarchy? I don't know of one,
Published by: Brian J McFarland
Pelham Manor, NY, USA 03/11/2009 07:23 PM EST
Every Sunday, I watch "Catholics" take the sacred host into their own hands according to Church of England traditional disputation of Transubstantiation. Could government control of the Church have been very far behind?
Published by: Fran
Hanson, MA USA 03/11/2009 05:21 PM EST
These men seem to have an enormous ego to think that they can take over the Catholic Church and do as they please with it. I am on the Parish Pastoral Council of my church. We have many many lay people involved in the activities of the parish and yes, how the money is spent. If they actually participated in the Catholic Church, they might have a better idea of what goes on there. I also think it's time more Catholics spoke out in defense of our faith.
Published by: Eugene Flanagan
Wilton, Connecticut, United States 03/11/2009 10:22 AM EST
So, who is "Attorney Tom Gallagher". As an attorney, I would like to know who this guy is. Is he the name partner in Gallagher, Briody & Butler in NYC? I wouldn't like to accuse the wrong man.
Published by: Tim
New York 03/11/2009 08:41 AM EST
This bill is an attack on the Catholic Church (and Christianity in general) by two openly gay legislators who are seeking revenge for the Church's opposition to gay marriage. VOTF is a radical group consisting primarily of refugees from the '60s. The conceit is that lay people are eager to oversee the financial operations of the parish. Don't kid yourself. The only ones with that motivation are not interested in the welfare of the Church.
Published by: Annaclair
Spokane, Wa. USA 03/11/2009 06:13 AM EST
I will pray for these people that they may find their way back to God and to Mother Church. But if they are so unhappy in their faith they are welcome to start their own Church. Christ started this one and the Faithful will protect her. Government has no place in the Catholic Church.
Published by: AnnaClair
Spokane, Wa. USA 03/11/2009 06:02 AM EST
If they are so unhappy with the Faith of the Catholic Church, they are free to start their own. But this Church was Created by Christ and the REAL faithful will protect her. The government has no place in the Catholic Church.
Published by: Alth
Hanceville, AL--USA 03/11/2009 04:54 AM EST
Perhaps this Lakeland should crawl back into his hole___such nonsense---and patently anti-Catholic. Is he not an ex-priest??---that says it all.
Published by: George Scott
Portland, OR, USA 03/11/2009 12:06 AM EST
Funny, state government trying to tell the church how to use money financially. Isn't every state in America asking the government for a bail-out because they don't know how manage their money financially. Love the hypocrisy!

P.S. It is also the peoples fault for voting in these idiots who don't even know the constitution of the United States. Kind of have to blame themselves for these anti-American morons.
Published by: MMD
Indiana 03/10/2009 10:39 PM EST
I see...maybe we should have Barney Frank run the Catholic Church? Or Nancy Pelosi?

Clearly unconstitutional.

Why are any elected officials wasting time on this, when they have real business to attend to?
Published by: william
monroe, la usa 03/10/2009 09:22 PM EST
markus,

this ain't sitzerland pal. it's the usa! chew on the first ammendment awhile until it starts to taste good! the country in a very real way does stop at the church doors.
Published by: Oliver Semmes
Navarre/FL/USA 03/10/2009 09:13 PM EST
The Catholic Church is the surest defence against the secular ist, socialist, agnostic, banal bent of the ruling Democrat Party. The Connecticut committee model is very similar to that used by Hitler and Stalin against THE CHURCH. Take heart in Jesus's promise that the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against her.
Published by: Rick
California 03/10/2009 09:05 PM EST
The X-priest should know that the Universal Church from Hartford to Rome to Heaven itself is goverened by God. It's a Kingdom, not a democracy. He would do better to find his place and rank, and worship the King.
Published by: Markus
Lexington, MA, USA 03/10/2009 09:03 PM EST
Having lived in Switzerland several years myself the experience with this "democratic" model is negative to say the least. The church is an institution of faith which cannot and must not be regulated by democratic standards, a basic flaw in the understanding of the church which is unfortunately very prominent in Switzerland.
VOTF does not speak for me and I certainly do not want to be regulated by a worse approach than what they claim to fix. It is good to see that this nonsense has been withdrawn today.
Published by: AC
IL 03/10/2009 08:44 PM EST
This guy obviously has an axe to grind. He isn't too solid in this thinking and reasoning, and it is more sad that he is employed as he is to ruin more minds and souls.
Published by: rachel
overland park, ks 03/10/2009 07:44 PM EST
Our founders of this nation came here because they wanted to separate state and religion. FREEDOM of RELIGION does not mean government involvement. Dr. Lakeland who... Who is this guy and why is he in the position he is in? No matter what religion is being attacked...this action is wrong and unlawful. In God we trust! Not the government!
Published by: Michelle
Zeeland, MI 03/10/2009 07:34 PM EST
Is this the same Tom Gallagher that was involved in the shady real estate deal in 2007??? If so, isn't that a little like the pot calling the kettle black?!? I SMELL A RAT!
Published by: Kyle Williams
Louisville Kentucky USA 03/10/2009 07:12 PM EST
When we allow society, especially the ones who rule us to become corrupt and allow ourselves to be ruled by corruption, this is what ends up happening. United we stand divided we fall. Time to unite. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Let us look at our own Declaration of independence for guidance.
Published by: Tom
Santa Monica, CA 03/10/2009 06:50 PM EST
Sounds like China and Russia, with their State control of the Church.
Published by: jim13
Fl. 03/10/2009 06:34 PM EST
Someone in the Connecticut Legislature needs to read the 1st and 14rh Amendments of the U.S. Constitution. The 1st prohibits the U.S. Congress from passing such a law. The 14th places the same retriction on the States.
Published by: Liz
Pennsylvania 03/10/2009 06:05 PM EST
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I likely am, but since when can legislators enact laws for diocese governance? If the Holy Father can appoint bishops and archbishops as the head of a diocese, then it stands to reason that they (the bishops) are outside the realm of a state- or federally-elected official drafting "legislation" such as this. I am sick to death of these so-called "Catholic" groups who pervert the true mission of the Church. I would really like to see them exposed and completely discredited on a major level for the hypocrites they are.
Published by: Greg
USA 03/10/2009 05:34 PM EST
Just one question for Marcus Heil of Switzerland: was this church-governance board in your country forced upon the Church through secular legislation, or did the Church in your country volunteer this type of set-up? Because there is a vast difference in the two.
Published by: Ron Pichlik
Battle Creek, MI USA 03/10/2009 05:22 PM EST
And after this happens what will be next. Getting liberal/heretical laity elected to these boards who will not only work to destroy the Church from the inside but implement modifications to the Catholic Schools; adopting the "wonderful" ideas and policies of the public school systems around the country.

In the final analysis the Church was established by Christ, as its' King with Peter, and his successors, being the prime ministers of this Kingdom until Christ's return. Please note the use of the word "Kingdom"; it is not the republic of God, or the democracy of God. It is the Kingdom of God. We may not always understand why the Church teaches what it does; guess what? Understanding is not a prerequisite to obedience. We may not always agree with what certain Bishops say, or how they conduct themselves. We don't have to. Remember what Jesus told his disciples about the pharisees; DO WHAT THEY SAY, don't do what they do. If we are faithful Catholics we obedience, respect to our Priests, Bishops, Cardinals and Pope. They are vested with ecclesiastical and teaching authority over us.

This is nothing short of an attempt by the liberal, homosexual and secular agenda to try to put the Church in its' place.
Published by: Mike
Flower Mound, Texas USA 03/10/2009 05:14 PM EST
This move by the State of connecticut is the result of our "fair-weather" Catholic members who have voted in the past for secular items such as abortion, gay marriage, Pelosi and Obama. We, committed and True Catholics, need to protest in LARGE numbers at the State Houses, Courthouses and Washington DC. The individuals that want these State rules passed, HATE Catholics, but of course will never admit it. They are as clever as any in history. Do not be the silent majority, you Catholics. We need to be out-spoken...We need to vote that way....We need to be a major factor in the country NOW and not delay! Stand Up for yourself and your GOD!!!
Published by: Jack
Salinas, CA, USA 03/10/2009 05:04 PM EST
There is no way, I mean no way, that this legislation, if it passes for some strange reason, will survive a First Amendment challenge.
Published by: Jim S.
Mission Viejo, CA 03/10/2009 04:56 PM EST
The Church was established PRIOR to the USGovt, so the USG has NO say so on Church policy. I agree where are the "seperation of church and state" pundints now? This is a farce, people call CA the "left coast" maybe that is only in geography.
Published by: Steve Kallesser
High Bridge, NJ 03/10/2009 04:36 PM EST
The comment about "relieving" bishops and priests of their fund-raising/financial obligations is absolutely repellant. The next thing you know, the Connecticut legislature will be "relieving" the faithful of the obligation of voting, free speech, etc.

I'm glad that even in the liberal northeast, this law has absolutely no chance of passing, being signed by a governor, or standing up to a court challenge. Someone should hand the bill's sponsors a copy of the Constitution.
Published by: Francis Xavier T
Washington, D.C 03/10/2009 04:16 PM EST
To Nan Siep of Florida, do you know how many priests stole millions of dollars for the Church? Do you know how many priests caused the great child sex abused scandals that rock the Church and shame the Holy Father? If you do, should you cast blame on ALL THE PRIESTS like you would to the Jesuits? Please read Mark Heil’s and Rita’s comments. They both understand the issue well.
Published by: Wordsmith
Sk. Rapids, MN 03/10/2009 04:03 PM EST
As a Lutheran, former resident of CO and CT I see this legislation as an elitist secular attack on all denominations and an attack on our First Amendment Rights. Since Darien is prominently mentioned, it might be proper to remind the liberals behind this legislation that is the town Jefferson's letter gave birth to the idea of separation of church and state. Nowhere in the Constitution or Bill of Rights do those words appear. Jefferson merely condemned the idea of a state religion. This legislation is an attack on all denominations, not merely my Catholic brethern.
Published by: Bill Daugherty
San Antonio/Texas/USA 03/10/2009 03:51 PM EST
Make VOTF bear their guilt, O God; let them fall by their own counsels. Ps 5:10
Published by: Douglas Cook
Madison AL 03/10/2009 03:40 PM EST
Sounds like the beginning of Liberation Theology. A political/"religious" invention conceived, produced and directed by the Jesuits. We have it in the White House why not the Church?
Dr. Paul Lakeland, Fairfield University Chair of Catholic Studies, Voice of the Faithful member, former Jesuit Priest. What is a "former" priest? Obviously this man has renounced his sacred religious vows why is he even listened to?
If the states mandate the financial management of the Catholic Church we will have no Catholic Church. It is very humanist now can you imagine what it would be like if the State directs the management structure of the church.
Remember "follow the money" and you will gain insight to the real motives. I can see it now. The liberal state of Connecticut decides that pro-life cannot be preached, and the women should be priest and that the church must perform the oxymoron of homosexual marriage. Otherwise the state will shut down the financing of the church.

This is not good news!
Published by: markus heil
Switzerland 03/10/2009 02:54 PM EST
Rate: Regular
A similar model of church-governance, which is proposed by the conneticut bill, is already in place in the Roman Catholic Church of Switzerland. It does definitely not mean the end of the church but establishes a solid system of checks and balances between the pastoral authority of the bishop and the responsibility of the lay-people, at least in the area of what is done with the finances they donate. As finances are vital to an organisation it is possible to execute via this new model of church-governance a certain co-responsibility in the mission of the church. It starts in the parishes and has an impact to the diocesan and national levels of church-finances, as long as they are fund-raised in the parishes and not donated directly. So if anybody is interested in details, how the model will work, you can look to our country of old democratic values, which do not stop at the church-doors.
Further information you may find at the homepage of the national (lay) body of catholic boards ... at organisations. These boards are called "staatskirchenrechtliche Institutionen"
Published by: Kathleen
CA, USA 03/10/2009 02:52 PM EST
Rate: Excellent
Does it make anyone else cringe that this man is a "chair of Catholic Studies"? Even if it is at Fairfield...
Published by: Pat
tucson 03/10/2009 02:52 PM EST
The financial affairs of the Church appear to be a cover for opening up the church to further scrutiny and therefore pressure from outside sources over things that are not a matter of supprting and spreading THE WORD.What has happened to faith in this country?
Published by: Zita
Philo 03/10/2009 02:20 PM EST
Watch out America- do you not see the "secular, luke-warm catholics" are setting the innocent up to be slaughtered by the goverment? And using secular, pagan "laws" to do it? Hum... sounds like hitler in a few years back-
Published by: Myles Keogh
Fort Riley Kansas 03/10/2009 01:59 PM EST
Rate: Excellent
"Dr. Paul Lakeland, Fairfield University Chair of Catholic Studies, Voice of the Faithful member, former Jesuit Priest, and author of several books including “The Liberation of the Laity: In Search of an Accountable Church,” recently discussed his support for Connecticut’s controversial Bill No. 1098 with CNA. Dr. Lakeland is also scheduled to testify before the Connecticut General Assembly on behalf of the bill."
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A fallen away priest... That is all you need to know about where his and this group's motivation and intent lies. They are out to attack and subjugate the Church under the guise of "finacial reform and accountability". They have no business interfering with internal matters of the Catholic Church or any other religious organization. Typical liberal hypocrisy. So much for their argument regarding separation of church and state. They are so full of lies.
Published by: Rita
Pittsburgh, PA 03/10/2009 01:55 PM EST
Rate: Excellent
If we, the faithful, have a problem with the legal, financial, and administrative structure of our parishes / dioceses, we, the faithful, will fix it. Since when did educators and legislators become the sole arbitors of solutions to "problems?" Given their poor track record (anyone notice the dire state of our nation as a whole and state-by-state -- academically, economically and otherwise?), seems they are the problem rather than the solution! "We, the people" have relied on this so-called expertise far too long and have forgotten that, as individuals, we possess the resourcefulness to achieve great good, and we still can without more legislation -- thank you very much!
Published by: Father Schnippel
Cincinnati, OH 03/10/2009 01:55 PM EST
Dear Betsy:

However, in Canon Law and in the theology of the Church, the priest, acting in the person of Christ, has the obligations and mandate to be the steward of the parish/property entrusted to him; as a reflection of Christ's ttri-muneral office of priest, prophet and king. The governance of the parish is his, and is specifically priestly.
Published by: Nancy Heise
Parkland, FL, USA 03/10/2009 01:23 PM EST
Since when does civil government tell a church how to structure a diocese? The Catholic Church suffered with that same problem back in the middle ages when kings fought with popes over bishop appointments. Lay involvement resulted in much Church corruption. We have the same scenario in Communist China today. However, Connecticut is not China, but the USA - what happened to separation of church and state? I will be surprised if any legislator takes this bill seriously.
Published by: Nan Siep
FL 03/10/2009 01:02 PM EST
it's time for all faithful Catholics to take action against the enemies of the Church. Bind them in the Blood of Jesus with the exorcism prayer several times a day from the President on down. I include the entire world. The Jesuits seem to have fallen prey to the enemy, and are doing his work rather than God's now. Bind, bind, bind, and pray the Rosary, over and over. The Rosary is the weapon against the enemies of God. Please humor me and do it.
Published by: bjcass
n.carolina 03/10/2009 12:52 PM EST
The only response that will stop the bill is a loud ,well coordinated protest by Catholics throughout the state.If they are passive or their pastors want to be "low key" and leave some flyers to be picked up after Mass,they will be steamrolled.It`s time to stand up and face our adversaries with courage and personal commitment.This is a superb opportunity for the K of C to get moving!
Published by: Claudia King
Buzzards Bay, MA 03/10/2009 12:38 PM EST
VOTF is just another group trying to destroy the Catholic Church. They certainly don't speak for me.
Published by: Kathleen Griffin
Bronx, NY 03/10/2009 12:30 PM EST
While part of this is the old 19th C. "trusteeship" controversy, in which Catholic laypeople wanted to own Church property, hire & fire priests, & generally adopt Protestant practices, the core is prejudice. VOTF wants to establish a schismatic "church" using the name & financial resources of the Catholic Church, while adhering to no Catholic belief. The State is virulently prejudiced, as it is attacking only one religion, not all. There is no reason to single out one faith if the State merely wants to adopt the Chinese practice of a State-run "religion."
Published by: betsy hackett
Cheshire CT USA 03/10/2009 12:26 PM EST
Rate: Bad
The issue,the focus and the outcome of the oroposed legislation needs to be on financial management rather than exaggerated to reflect an attack on the "Catholic faith" Christ would have approved! Let our administrators, finally, be free to guide their flock prayerfully and thoughtfully without the burden (or scandal) of finances.
Published by: Rev Chandra Mohan
Chennai, India 03/10/2009 12:20 PM EST
Dear Friends,

Institutional Churches in India also lack accountability. Laity only should challenge the Church. Hence we are promoting in India an Ecumenical Movement of Dalit Christians led by Laity, which is inclusive of all Dalit Christians and their sub Castes.

The unaccountability of the Indian Churches including the Protestant and Catholics is a challenge to the Humanity
Published by: Matt
California 03/10/2009 12:15 PM EST
Voices of the Faithful? It doesn't sound like they have faith at all.
Published by: Joe
Spencer, WV 03/10/2009 11:07 AM EST
Rate: Excellent
Funny how I don't hear a thing from the usual liberal "separation-from-church-and-state" promoters.

If they get away with this one, every denomination of churches, temples, synagogues are next!
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