Denver archbishop warns against ‘spirit of adulation’ surrounding Obama
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Archbishop Charles Chaput

.- Canadians packed St. Basil’s Church in Toronto on Monday evening to hear Archbishop Charles Chaput speak about how Catholics should live out their faith in the public square. He warned that in the U.S., Catholics need to act on their faith and be on guard against "a spirit of adulation bordering on servility" that exists towards the Obama administration.

The public lecture by Archbishop Chaput took place on the campus of the University of Toronto at St. Basil’s Church and was attended by an overflow crowd of more than 700 people.

After giving a sketch of the basic principles in his New York Times Bestseller "Render Unto Caesar," the archbishop offered his insights on the need for an honest assessment of the situation of the Church in the public square.

"I like clarity, and there’s a reason why," began the archbishop. "I think modern life, including life in the Church, suffers from a phony unwillingness to offend that poses as prudence and good manners, but too often turns out to be cowardice. Human beings owe each other respect and appropriate courtesy. But we also owe each other the truth -- which means candor."

The Denver prelate then provided his critique of President Obama.

"President Obama is a man of intelligence and some remarkable gifts. He has a great ability to inspire, as we saw from his very popular visit to Canada just this past week. But whatever his strengths, there’s no way to reinvent his record on abortion and related issues with rosy marketing about unity, hope and change. Of course, that can change. Some things really do change when a person reaches the White House. Power ennobles some men. It diminishes others. Bad policy ideas can be improved. Good policy ideas can find a way to flourish. But as Catholics, we at least need to be honest with ourselves and each other about the political facts we start with."

Yet this will be "very hard for Catholics in the United States," Chaput warned.

According to the archbishop, the political situation for Catholics is difficult to discern because a "spirit of adulation bordering on servility already exists among some of the same Democratic-friendly Catholic writers, scholars, editors and activists who once accused pro-lifers of being too cozy with Republicans. It turns out that Caesar is an equal opportunity employer."

Looking ahead to the coming months and years, Chaput offered four "simple things" to remember.

"First," he said, "all political leaders draw their authority from God. We owe no leader any submission or cooperation in the pursuit of grave evil."

"In fact, we have the duty to change bad laws and resist grave evil in our public life, both by our words and our non-violent actions. The truest respect we can show to civil authority is the witness of our Catholic faith and our moral convictions, without excuses or apologies."

In a reference to the messianic treatment the Barack Obama received from some Americans during the presidential primaries, Archbishop Chaput delivered his second point: "in democracies, we elect public servants, not messiahs."

Noting that Obama actually trailed in the weeks just before the election, the Denver archbishop said that this places some of today’s talk about a "new American mandate" in perspective.

"Americans, including many Catholics, elected a gifted man to fix an economic crisis. That’s the mandate. They gave nobody a mandate to retool American culture on the issues of marriage and the family, sexuality, bioethics, religion in public life and abortion. That retooling could easily happen, and it clearly will happen -- but only if Catholics and other religious believers allow it."

The third point to focus on when the beliefs of Catholics are challenged is that "it doesn’t matter what we claim to believe if we’re unwilling to act on our beliefs," Chaput counseled.

"The fourth and final thing to remember, and there’s no easy way to say it," remarked Archbishop Chaput, is that the "Church in the United States has done a poor job of forming the faith and conscience of Catholics for more than 40 years."

"And now we’re harvesting the results -- in the public square, in our families and in the confusion of our personal lives. I could name many good people and programs that seem to disprove what I just said. But I could name many more that do prove it, and some of them work in Washington."

American Catholics need to realize that many in the current generation haven’t just been "assimilated" into the American culture, but have in fact been "absorbed and bleached and digested by it," Archbishop Chaput asserted.

If this realization doesn’t happen, the coming generations will continue on the same path and "a real Catholic presence in American life will continue to weaken and disappear," said Chaput.

Citing the example of "unhappy, self-described Catholics who complain that abortion is too much of a litmus test," he stated, "We can’t claim to be ‘Catholic’ and ‘pro-choice’ at the same time without owning the responsibility for where the choice leads – to a dead unborn child."

The archbishop also addressed the "abortion reduction" argument being made by some in politics.

"We can’t talk piously about programs to reduce the abortion body count without also working vigorously to change the laws that make the killing possible. If we’re Catholic, then we believe in the sanctity of developing human life. And if we don’t really believe in the humanity of the unborn child from the moment life begins, then we should stop lying to ourselves and others, and even to God, by claiming we’re something we’re not."

"Catholic social teaching goes well beyond abortion," Chaput noted. "In America we have many urgent issues that beg for our attention, from immigration reform to health care to poverty to homelessness."

Winding his talk down, the Archbishop of Denver remarked on the misunderstanding of the word "hope."

"For Christians," he explained, "hope is a virtue, not an emotional crutch or a political slogan. Virtus, the Latin root of virtue, means strength or courage. Real hope is unsentimental. It has nothing to do with the cheesy optimism of election campaigns. Hope assumes and demands a spine in believers. And that’s why – at least for a Christian -- hope sustains us when the real answer to the problems or hard choices in life is ‘no, we can’t,’ instead of ‘yes, we can.’"

The full text of the archbishop's speech can be found here: http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/document.php?n=790

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Subscriber comments:
Published by: Noreen
Davis, CA, USA 07/30/2009 03:12 PM EST
BRIAN in NYC writes:
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Where I differ with him (Chaput)and with many, and will continue to do so, is on the issue of the unborn.
The entire Catholic faith is built solely on the concept of choice and Jesus' CHOICE to die for our sins."
HUH? Is this a wilful perversion of Catholic doctrine re the unborn? Or has BRIAN become another victim of what Archbishop Chaput (rightly) describes as "cheesy optimism"?
Published by: Stevie
Austin, TX, USA 07/24/2009 02:09 PM EST
You people are really ridiculous. Antichrist? C'mon, really? Your racism is disgustingly perverse. Keep your polito-church out of my country please.
Published by: brian
new york city 05/13/2009 10:09 AM EST
Archbishop Chaput is a good man, and his words ring true- there isn't anything necessarily happy and bright and light about hope, about persevering. Hope is a conviction more than a sentiment.

Where I differ with him and with many, and will continue to do so, is on the issue of the unborn.
The entire Catholic faith is built solely on the concept of choice and Jesus' CHOICE to die for our sins.
We are taught that God forgives us if only we CHOOSE to ASK Him for it.
Do i approve of abortion? No, I do not. Do I think altering our Constitution or passing laws restricting our amazing freedom of choice solve the problem? No, I don't.

I know I stand largely alone on this issue- we should live in a country and a world where people make better decisions and there wouldn't be a need for such a decision to be made.
but the choice must always be there. the principle of the ability to choose it vital.
Published by: Mary Anderson
Lakeview, Oregon 03/16/2009 03:50 PM EST
Thanks you for eloquently saying what most of us Christians believe to be true. We need to stand up and be counted. Keep up the good work.
Published by: Jack
NY 03/11/2009 01:51 PM EST
...just remember this that if Obama is the Antichrist, 2 Thess 2:8-9 says that: "And then that wicked one shall be revealed: whom the Lord Jesus shall kill with the spirit of his mouth and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: him Whose coming is according to the working of Satan, in all power and signs and lying wonders."

Jesus Christ is the Lord!
Published by: Rose
Salt Lake City, UT 03/09/2009 08:49 PM EST
Paul - I guess it's a good thing for Archbishop Chaput that his soul is not in your hands. I know for certain that if YOU went to him for absolution, he would absolve you in a heartbeat. Too bad you are not as loving and forgiving.
Published by: paul ackerman
columbus, Ms usa 03/08/2009 04:21 PM EST
Rate: Regular
The good Archbishop can speak all he wants to about Obama killing the unborn but what about his own pedophile clergy who "killed" the born children? Would that the good Archbishop would look into his own backyard instead of assailing the new President. I am not an Obama supporter but I believe he needs to check the beam in his own eye before he assails the log in anothers! As a Vatican 2 Catholic, I can not absolve Chaput in his attack on Obama...
Published by: vic
solana beach 03/02/2009 05:43 PM EST
As a Catholic of Vatican 1, I devoured your words, emailed to my friends and ordered your books. In my parish, many parishioners had bumper stickers with Obama and I would engage and ask the simple question As a Catholic, how can you vote for a man who would kill the innocent? You cannot. God Bless you and keep you well.
Published by: victoria
san diego/ca/usa 03/01/2009 07:41 PM EST
God Bless You.
Long live the Baltimore
Catechism.
Published by: beverly owens
aurora,co,usa 02/28/2009 02:55 PM EST
Archbishop Chaput,
Thank you so much for your comments re: Pres.Obama.
(I am no longer "a voice in the wilderness".)
Thank you!
Published by: Eva
Denver, CO 02/27/2009 07:30 PM EST
This is one of the best speeches I have ever heard. Thank you Archbishop Chaput! President Obama has no right to demoralize the United States of America. He is just a president. His task is to protect, not to destroy the country. Immorality is our greatest enemy.

And to Bob, have a little humility and respect for the Church. You know, hell EXITS, and you are putting your salvation on the line.

Eva
Published by: Rose
Salt Lake City, UT 02/27/2009 05:05 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
G. Mick - a little reading between the lines, please. Oprah, gazing with adoration at Obama, proclaims "He is THE ONE." I agree. He is the one. The historical first half-black man president who will also have the dubious distinction of destroying our once great nation. He already has us on our knees.
Published by: Bob
Salem/Ohio/USA 02/27/2009 04:46 PM EST
Rate: Good
I have been a parish catechist for almost 40 years. I have degrees and certification in catechesis from prestigious schools. I know my faith, I live my faith, and I teach my faith to the children in my classroom. Are you placing the blame for this so called "poor job" of catechizing our young people on us? I am tired of having all of these problems within the church placed on poor teaching. We as dedicated catechists taught these children about God and the Church under extreme hardship: some non-caring parents concerning the religious faith of their children, who never came to a class to listen to what their children were being taught; some non-caring clergy, who never came to any of the classes to show support to the children; and "role models" who were anything but that, either in the world of sports, government, education, and sometimes even in the Church. The thousands of volunteers who brought their faith every week to their classrooms, and tried to share it with the children, should not be made to be the reason for the "poor job" of catechizing our members. I think it is remarkable that with only 40 hours a year these volunteers where able to keep so many of the members we now have within the Catholic Church. Will these catechists also be blamed for the low numbers of clergy and religious within the Church also?
Published by: G. Mick Smith, PhD
Pago Pago, Samoa 02/27/2009 02:15 PM EST
Response to:

Joseph
NY/NY/US 25/02/2009

I challenge anyone to provide any evidence of a mainstream Obama supporting individual or group that has made any pretensions to Obama being any sort of messiah.

Henry Kissinger is mainstream; Henry wants Obama to head up a one-world government.

If that is not messianic, I do not know what is.


Henry Kissinger, former Secretary of State, describes how a one world government, wherein the U.S. abdicates its popular sovereignty, will emerge as not just a crisis, but as an opportunity. Obama will be the leader in this direction.

Kissinger anticipates that at the end of the current administration, most likely between the next four to eight years, the one world government will arise.

Kissinger was interviewed on 16 December 2008 with PBS's Charlie Rose, explaining that "crises" such as global terrorism, global economic upheaval, and global environmental deterioration will require moving beyond the nation state and national sovereignty.
Published by: SylviaG
Vacaville, CA 02/26/2009 06:56 PM EST
Rate: Regular
Yesterday I noticed the
headline, "Archbishop warns..." and I thought "For the love of God, what is wrong with these guys in ecclesiastical gear?" Today I googled and found this article and comments. I notice that the rating system is inoperative...perhaps because I'm an outsider/non-dues-paying Catholic...who happens to be in as good standing as any archbishop? Just wondering.
Published by: Dom
DM, Iowa, U.S.A. 02/26/2009 01:20 PM EST
Rate: Excellent
God bless leaders who actually represent TRUTH and SPEAK IT!!! Goes to show where morals and values come from; certainly not from this new "leader" called the president, who is more like Hitler with his whole F.O.C.A. campaign.. The only difference is that this guy has the "gift of gab", and people love celebrities!Fools follow fools, I guess.
Published by: Angel
Costa Mesa CA USA 02/26/2009 12:26 PM EST
Very well said. he is right that the church in general has assimilated into the world. What ever happened to-" be IN the world, but not OF the world" ? The bishop is right in that the church is trying so hard to be accepted by the world, that it is missing it's mission- to be set apart followers of Christ.
Published by: Gabriel
Chicago, USA 02/26/2009 12:10 PM EST
Mike Maz, your assessment of the Catholic Church is incorrect. Maybe you need to visit more Catholic Churches. This Catholic parish is brimming with families.
Published by: Jim Laurent
Ohio 02/26/2009 11:12 AM EST
Mike Maz-
I most heartily disagree with your assessment that the Church is becoming irrelevant. First of all, its relevance is in no way connected to the age group that attends church. And regarding that, you must be ill-informed about who is going to Mass. As a former parishioner of Archbishop Chaput's in Denver, he is the driving force of the renewal of the Catholic faith among young adults in the region. Every Sunday night at the 6pm mass he celebrates is packed with at least 500-600 people under the age of 40. Other areas of the country are thriving with young Catholics as well...DC/Northern Virginia, New York City, Louisiana, Dallas, SoCal, to name a few. Your lack of optimism might be clouded b/c wherever you are it isnt so clear, but I guarantee if you look you will find the resurgence of a Catholic underground in our culture that is like a powder keg about to be set off. Archbishop Chaput is one of the few catalysts lighting the fuse.
Published by: Rick Ahmann
Helena, MT 02/26/2009 10:54 AM EST
The Church defends life from conception to natural death. Most politicians and citizens waiver on one or both! Very rarely is the view of the politico or the public they serve hand-in-hand on these issues.

Liberals will proclaim to be "pro-choice" and "anti-death penalty" while Conservatives are "pro-life and pro-death penalty". Wow! How did we get here?

In EVANGELIUM VITAE, Pope John Paul the Great said, "The Gospel of life is both a great gift of God and an exacting task for humanity. It gives rise to amazement and gratitude in the person graced with freedom, and it asks to be welcomed, preserved and esteemed, with a deep sense of responsibility. In giving life to man, God demands that he love, respect and promote life. The gift thus becomes a commandment, and the commandment is itself a gift."

Difficult? Yes. Worthy of our attention and diligent efforts? Also a hearty Yes!
Published by: GR
Ut 02/26/2009 10:46 AM EST
Very good message on courage vs cowardice and respect/courtesy vs truth and candor. Was great on the perversion of meaning of hope. I am not catholic but am thrilled that this church is blasting the political dogma that is trying to become the standard for right and wrong. We must not be sheep and follow this pied piper (Obama) blindly. We must search our soul prayerfully for Gods answers not rely on the arm of flesh.
Published by: rick
ft. lauderdale fl usa 02/26/2009 02:45 AM EST
All I need comment is the ninny commentator on MSNBC who "gets a feeling up his leg when Obama speaks. Or the Black woman who said on local TV that now that Obama has been elected president,I will not have to pay for gasoline anymore and I won't have to pay my mortgage. This is sick.
Published by: Tony Pusilee
Vallejo, Ca, U.S.A. 02/26/2009 02:33 AM EST
People sober up just a reminder to everybody on both sides of the aisles, you still remember Jim Jones? He was a gifted very charismatic preacher and what happen to his followers? He took them all with him to the other side... dead.
Published by: Tom
Los Angeles 02/26/2009 02:20 AM EST
I bet you folks wouldn't have uttered a peep if Bush had been 'adjulated'.

More to the point the intellectuals and centrists have assumed control and intend to keep it. You know why this is so.

That is not to say that you folks do not have the correct argument on the abortion issue. You do. But you need to understand that throwing in your lot with the Karl Rove Palin Joe the Plumber clowns of oppportunity isn't going to get the job done.
Published by: Ken
Lafayette/CA/USA 02/26/2009 02:11 AM EST
As a Mormon I really enjoy this article and Archbishop Chaput. I also am very fond of Pope Benedict. Both men say what needs to be said without hesitation and Catholics should pay attention to these men. Obama is trying his best to use his popularity to force a 180 degree change on America while we are watching the TV and bing bing then all of a sudden we are going to see our liberties vanish. Again all of us should re-read his column and take heed, and watch out for the adversary as he is alive and afoot.
Published by: AbleGoodman
Grand Junction, CO, USA 02/26/2009 01:24 AM EST
May God richly bless Archbishop Chaput for standing with Jesus, the prophets, the Apostles and the giants of the Church! What a pleasant, comforting and healing change from the worldly blather all of the Baskin Robbins denominations of 26 USC 501(c)(3) Pharisees! Jesus himself said "Go and sin no more." He never played politically correct word games in order gain popularity by equivocating about "what the meaning of sin is."
Published by: john smith
Valencia, California, USA 02/26/2009 12:51 AM EST
We couldn't agree with the Archbishop more. The Pope isn't very pleased himself. I think the Obama and All the Democrats are Eugenic Believers. They've been at it a full century and have produced such wonderful things as NAZIs, racism and murder of blacks in several communities, saniteriums that castrated and fixed people. Defining people as subpar, Idiots, Stupid, feeble minded and other degrading names to describe their exceptionality. Algore is one of the most up front of the Eugenics people. He referenced Margret Sanger's goal of 250 million left on the planet after the rest are creatively murdered off the planet.
Published by: Lila Powell
Guyton, Ga. 02/26/2009 12:37 AM EST
Archbishop Chaput is speaking for the rest of us who know the truth and think this is a form of adulation. He is bravely saying what God warns all of us to be careful not to do.
Published by: John Abadsafian
Pasadena,California, USA 02/26/2009 12:36 AM EST
To Mike Maz on his commenting only of the abuses of Catholic priests (sexual abuse in relation to children);
Why is it that people like you only criticize the catholic/christian ways and system of values? Did you ever once stop to think about the hundreds of children/adults brainwashed by their instructors or mullahs? And how they end up as terrorists the next day, fighting for a god and objective of ethnic cleansing? How very naive of you to think only one religion, the very one our country is founded upon, is the root of evil and is the sole party to blame.
Published by: Virginia
Monessen, PA 02/25/2009 11:58 PM EST
If anti-abortionists feel so stongly why are they not taking a case to the Supreme Court. 7 of the 9 Supreme Court Judges have been appointed by Republican presidents. If the Republican party is pro-life surely they would push for this. Or is it that they are afraid once they lose the abortion issue they have nothing to attract the far right.
Published by: Pat
Camarillo/CA/USA 02/25/2009 11:53 PM EST
MY HERO!!
Published by: Anthony Broussard
Columbia/SC/USA 02/25/2009 11:32 PM EST
I haven't heard the truth spoken so clearly in years from a Christian or Catholic in a position of leadership and authority. This reminds me of the intellect and openness of a giant, Bishop Fulton Sheen.
Published by: Maria
buena park/CA/USA 02/25/2009 11:27 PM EST
Amen Amen from A Protestant Sister!!!
Published by: Drew
Eugene, OR 02/25/2009 11:27 PM EST
Mike Maz,

I'm a little bewildered by your comment since the Catholic Masses I have attended are quite crowded with fellow parishioners. In addition, the make-up of the parishioners includes all type of people from different background and ages. I'm sorry to say, but the Church is not going anywhere anytime soon. Lastly, thanks Archbishop Chaput for stating some common sense.

Deo Gratias.
Published by: Gualberto
Denver, CO, USA 02/25/2009 11:20 PM EST
No adulation of Obama? Just look at all the people with the Obama big brother sticker on their car.
It's funny though that Archbishop Chaput gives all these talks about Catholics in the public square, because when I was in front of his basilica in Denver collecting signatures for a personhood pro-life petition totally within my constitutional right to speak in a public forum the church had a security guard come out and tell me that I had to get off the sidewalk and go to the next block. Of course, the security guard was wrong, but I didn't want to cause a ruckus and I was also in shock that I should get kicked out of my own Catholic church when petitioning for a pro-life petition in the freezing cold. I don't believe the good pastor, and I would like to see him practice what he preaches about the public square.
Published by: aroleflin
Ft. Lauderdale 02/25/2009 11:05 PM EST
Could it be that Obama is the anti-Christ? Despite the press, there is growing angst and anger in the U.S. about what really is the end aim of this arrogant distrustful man who learned from Chicago style corrupt policies and tacticts.
Published by: Mauricio Villablanca
Los Angeles 02/25/2009 11:01 PM EST
Obama is an egomaniac and people really have to stop drinking his Kool Aid while he's grabbing power and taxing us and the future generation.
Published by: JB
PA 02/25/2009 11:00 PM EST
Dwindling membership, fewer cleregy, church kaput, Chaput.
Published by: Hugh McInnish
Huntsville, AL 02/25/2009 10:41 PM EST
Bless you!
I wish you would come to Huntsville, AL and speak to some of us here, especially to our Protestant preachers.
Published by: Terence
Albuquerque/NM/USA 02/25/2009 10:38 PM EST
The ArchBishop is absolutely right. Our first loyalty is to God and His commandments. I can be charitable to Obama but I could never support his policies. And mark my words - the next thing that is coming is an all out assault on the church because Obama's administration is going to need a scapegoat soon when his policies fail. They will go after tax-exempt status - they will go after the sacrament of marriage and they will go after Catholic radio and TV.
Published by: David
Nashville/TN/USA 02/25/2009 10:32 PM EST
"Speaking truth to power," is always honored!
Published by: Bill
Dallas, Texas, USA 02/25/2009 10:26 PM EST
Virtus means "manly" or "macho" in Latin. To be manly is to be virtuous in the Roman lingual sense. What is manly in Roman culture? To be hard working, to till the field, to be the "pater" of the family. The Archbishop is right. Virtue demands a spine.
Published by: Steven Flanders
Denver CO USA 02/25/2009 10:05 PM EST
Responding to Joseph in an early comment.
I certainly saw Obama supporters (hard to tell if they were "mainstream" or not)wearing t-shirts that said "The only truth standing before us is Obama" That is an accurate, direct quote (one of my friends bought one of the shirts to be able to prove it exists later.) That certainly has messianic overtones, don't you think? It didn't say Obama speaks the truth, it said that Obama, like Christ, is the truth.
Published by: Jeff
Los Alamos/NM/US 02/25/2009 09:55 PM EST
Archbishop Chaput is right on. His job is to lead us to heaven and that is what he is doing.
Published by: Eugenia
Portland 02/25/2009 09:50 PM EST
A man of true courage. So many drink at the fountain of lies on the back of the millions of dead babies for the sake of their secular messiah and their own interests that we need more such courageous bishops speaking the truth loud, clear and unafraid!
Published by: A Escalona
Shoreline, WA 02/25/2009 09:41 PM EST
Makes me want to move to the Denver area, been thinking about it ever since I first heard the Archbishop speak, and the urge just keeps getting stronger.
Published by: JC
St. Petersburg 02/25/2009 09:39 PM EST
I agree with what Archbishop Chaput said. What I don't understand is why the Church continues to give communion to the likes of Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, etc. Many Bishops spoke out against these politicians, but the church never takes any punitive action against them. By doing nothing they weaken the church, and send a message that church doctrine is more like church guidelines.
Published by: bob
seattle 02/25/2009 09:32 PM EST
The Bishop is right. Too many on the right and left have replaced religion with politics. Just look at the vengeful comments about his writings in the above comments. Too bad politics does not give rise to self reflection, humility and compassion. Nothing like an atheist democrat who is holier than thou.
Published by: Roger
NZ 02/25/2009 09:29 PM EST
Beware the pontifications of men wearing skirts who having removed themselves to cloistered surroundings are hardly able to speak of real life
Published by: rascalofearth
Michigan 02/25/2009 09:10 PM EST
"all political leaders draw their authority from God."

Wrong ! In the US we derive our power from the US Constitution. We took power from god's self appointed representative, the King. We will not yield authority to rule us back to tax subsidized child rapists who do the bidding of a german prince sitting in roman palace. Please read Jefferson's Viginia Statute for Religious Freedom to understand why we detests religious dictators and their lust for power.
Published by: Texan
Deep South Texas 02/25/2009 09:06 PM EST
I am so glad a prince of the Church is speaking out against the falseness of holding a mere man up as a messiah. Enter ye in at the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction and many there are who go in therest. Matthew 7:13 Douay-Rheims Bible.
Published by: Chaplain Bill Herrmann
Ladson,SC USA 02/25/2009 09:05 PM EST
Alleuia for the Bishop of Denver.

Having watched the "spirit of adulation" for the new American President proliferate it is of great concern.
It shows how the entire world will likely react when the antiChrist steps onto the geopolitical stage.
I'm sorry but any "spirit of adulation" belongs solely to Yeshua our Lord. To Him alone belongs such praise,trust,and fidelity.
Published by: Ned Flanders
Bossum, ID, USA 02/25/2009 09:01 PM EST
I don't think we should speak out about priest and alter boys.
Published by: rufus
dallas tx usa 02/25/2009 08:57 PM EST
Don, and your counterparts...isn't it about time to give up having a need to reference George
Bush on any issue where Obama is criticized? Bush is gone and what he would or would not do or what he did or did not do has no more relevance regarding Barack Obama. Get over it. No more chance to get even with President Bush, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, etc...TODAY, is is ALL on Obama, Biden, Reid, and Pelosi...whatever they make of this nation belongs purely to them...whatever they "inherited" was there all during the campaign and their time in the Senate...they have no excuse for not knowing what was happening in the nations economy, or otherwise...as they got to vote on it in the Senate for at least two years before taking over the controls....so "bush did it too" is just juvenile playground little kid whining.
Published by: Harry Douglas
PA 02/25/2009 08:53 PM EST
Watch out, Bishop. It's talk like that which won't be permitted in the New America that's now forming. Hail Obama.
Published by: J Douglas
Richardson, TX USA 02/25/2009 08:52 PM EST
When Kerry was running against Bush, Archbishop Chaput said that if a Catholic voted for Kerry it would bea moral sin. 64% of Catholics did vote for Kerry. Can it be assumed then, that unless they went to confession, that 64% of American Catholics will go to hell.

Should a Catholic who voted for Kerry and/or Obama leave the Church?

Is there a "spirit of adulation" among Catholics in regards to the Pope? Is this too wrong?

What ever happened to the Church's concern about social justice and the poor?

Has the Church become "the Holy Republican Catholic Church."
Published by: James
Fairview Heights, IL 02/25/2009 08:51 PM EST
Thank you for a well written article, and for pointing out where Christians need to stand. And yes, there has been a messianic tone among the press and among several of Obama's followers. Many of them were referring to Obama as the annointed one, which is exactly what messiah translates too. We have to continue to pray for our leaders, especially our president, that they make prudent decisions.
Published by: james flanigan
palos verdes 02/25/2009 08:50 PM EST
Cathlic bishops never spoke against Pres. Bush through years of deceit, corruption, war and torture. They cannot stop speaking these days against Pres. Obama. It is hypocrisy; whited sepulchres now typical of a corrupt institution.
Published by: Rachel
California 02/25/2009 08:32 PM EST
I agree the US Catholic Church has done a poor job in teaching the faith. Many Catholics consult their Chinese or astrological signs and have illegitimate children along with keeping their faith separate from their political views.

My prayers are Catholics don't become like the church of Sardis as our Lord warned.
Published by: ANTHONY
Los Angeles, USA 02/25/2009 08:29 PM EST
Obama has no record on abortion. It has been the law of the American land since 1973 when Obama was 10 years old. He or no other President will ever change it, even a Catholic president.

And what of the Catholic Church's evil record with its Holocaust Denying Cardinals, sexual abuse of children, torture and inquisition, and silence in moral strife?

Let he who is without sin...
Published by: Tom
Montana 02/25/2009 08:02 PM EST
Agree with him or not, like him or not. At least this Archbishop is talking about a matter that is in sore need of consideration. We of the Christian family have fallen into an idolatry of comfort, and we believe more in the civil state to make us comfortable and therefore happy than we believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and the happiness of being loved by God, and the our redeemed capacity to return love to God. Too many of us are either Democrats before we are Catholics or Republicans before we are Evangelicals or Progressives before we are Mainline Protestants, etc. God is first, and until He is, everthing will be out of joint and the whole body will be ill. Thank you, Archbishop Chaput for making a constructive, helpful, and overdue contribution to a necessary discussion.
Published by: James T Harris
Milwaukee 02/25/2009 07:56 PM EST
taad,
If you like Archbishop Chaput, wait till you get a load of Dolan. Milwaukee just lost him to New York.

You ain't seen nothing yet!
Published by: Tagley
Fulton MO, USA 02/25/2009 07:37 PM EST
Excellent article, wish more clergy would stand up like this. I believe this country has rejected God and we are now reaping the benefits.
Published by: Nan
Omaha 02/25/2009 07:32 PM EST
Thank you for speaking out!!! God Bless You
Published by: Donald Barron
Ironton, ohio 02/25/2009 01:44 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
I think most bishops do not speak out because of the tax-exempt status they have. I think they should tell the gov. to shove it.
Published by: Doug
USA 02/25/2009 01:30 PM EST
No!! Don't serve your country, you have to serve the church or you are a bad person, of course. Forgive me if I put more faith in an organization that is still relevant and is headed by someone I actually voted for, instead of putting blind faith in the church and its nazi leader.
Published by: Mike Maz
NY NY 02/25/2009 11:14 AM EST
Rate: Regular
Well I certainly hope this bishop also agrees tha we shouldnt also have a spirit of adulation for the Pope? I know I don't. And I hope he also agrees that we should not have an unwillingness to offend the church when we want to address sexual abuse of children, how many of todayts priest probably gay etc etc.

We owe each other the truth on many issues. Lets hope you see it both ways.

But realistically I think we are way way past the point where the Catholic Church has any credibility. Go by any church on a Sunday and its primarily old grey haired folks. Attendance is dropping. The church is so out of touch that every day sees more and more young people not caring about religion at all. Its a tough reality to face!
Published by: Shawn
Ft Myers, FL 02/25/2009 10:53 AM EST
Rate: Excellent
I am shocked, shocked to hear this coming from a Catholic leader. It has been far too long since we've had sober, realistic leadership in the Church. My only hope is that Fr. Chaput's teachings will reach a larger audience, both inside the church leadership and among the followers. Good for Father Chaput to say what desperately needs to be said about our new president. Too bad that there are still far to many Catholics that worship him instead of HIM.
Published by: Lex Williams
Atlanta, Georgia 02/25/2009 08:27 AM EST
Rate: Excellent
AMEN! and AMEN!!!
from a Protestant Brother.
Published by: Joseph
NY/NY/US 02/25/2009 06:23 AM EST
Rate: Bad
There is no "false messianic tone" about Obama, as someone commented here. The only people speaking about Obama as a messiah are not Obama's supporters but devout Christian opponents of Obama who are trying to slur Obama's supporters as being over zealous. Obama is very popular, but I challenge anyone to provide any evidence of a mainstream Obama supporting individual or group that has made any pretensions to Obama being any sort of messiah. Obama's popularity numbers have even gone down in the last week. He is in the honeymoon stage of his presidency, but as time goes on his influence will decline as it does with all presidents. But as a young articulate president, the first post-Bush president, and as the first African American president, it did not take a wizard to predict that
Obama would be quite popular. There is nothing malevolent about this popularity, the problem is merely the fact that his ideological opponents are obviously upset by his popularity, as they naturally would be.
By the way, Obama opposses gay marriage, which the bishop missed in his demagogic statement. If critics of the American presidency wanted to be vocal about the over abundance of power that the office has, and wanted to criticize the abuse of this power, they should have done so when Bush was in office. Obama has barely gotten through the door, and has focused almost entirely on economics.
Published by: Alba,
Boston 02/24/2009 07:44 PM EST
Fabulous article...By their(our)fruits you shall know them (us)..it isn't difficult to understand you are iether with Christ or anti Christ..Truth is Truth anti truth is what it is..choose Truth, choose God, choose Christ, amen
Published by: Vince C
Phoenix, AZ 02/24/2009 05:55 PM EST
"Why wasn't the good archbishop making similar remarks to hard-core supporters of Bush a few months ago."

This is a juvenile statement. Nobody burned votive candles with Bush's figure on them, Bush did not give speeches from stages that looked like Temples, and nobody brainwashed kids to sing in videos praising Bush as the Savior of mankind. In short, nobody ever treated Bush like the the Messiah, the Chosen Anointed One. That's the difference.
Published by: John
Greenville/SC/USA 02/24/2009 05:09 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
Don from Buffalo,

1. On what authority do you say that the war in Iraq is unjust?

2. How do you define a denial of health care to children? Are you talking about the promotion of socialized medicine?

3. How do you define "torture"? Do you also criticize the real torture of unborn babies?

John
Published by: David Pokrywka
Frankfort,KY USA 02/24/2009 04:45 PM EST
Rate: Bad
OK, you first support the Pro-Life movement, then you become a far right Republican and then you join the Mormon church.
Published by: Lynn
Ottawa, Oh US 02/24/2009 04:11 PM EST
Thank you so much Archbishop Chaput. I pray we have more who will speak the truth. You give me hope. May I have the courage to always speak the truth. Even when others shy away from it.
Published by: AnnC
nyc 02/24/2009 03:36 PM EST
Lapinbizzare- You refute your own point.McCain DID have a bounce after the GOP Convention.In the final momths,some polls were within the margin of error,most showed a widening gap and than an expanding lead for Obama.Big deal. Are you suggesting the Archbishop isn`t credible on Life issues because of his interpretation of polling data?
Published by: Rachel
Little Rock AR 02/24/2009 03:04 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
Remember to continue to pray DAILY for the Church, the Holy Father, all Bishops, Priests and Religious. Well spoken Archbishop Chaput!
Published by: Dennis
Fennville/Michigan/USA 02/24/2009 02:24 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
Children, be on your guard against idols.
- I John 5:21
Published by: Dennis
Fennville/Michigan/USA 02/24/2009 02:20 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
Chuck and Don - read the Archbishop's books and speeches. He has addressed all the issues you mention. What makes you think, or know, that he sided with Bush? Check your facts before you speak.
Published by: Pam
Longmont, CO, USA 02/24/2009 02:17 PM EST
Rate: Excellent
Thank God, finally what has needed to be said has been said and the Church has taken a firm stand at both the Vatican and now the beginning at the local levels. Hopefully this will enable other ArchBishops to cast off the bounds of PC and start reaffirming the teachings of the Catholic Church,

What an excellent oratory. Obama could only hope to have a scintilla of the integrity and humanity of ArchBishop Chaput.
Published by: Bill
Tampa/FL/USA 02/24/2009 01:59 PM EST
For those that question why the Archbishop didn't give Bush a hard time on policy: 1) Are you sure he didn't? 2) Would the truth of what he says be any less truthful depending on who his comments are aimed at?
Published by: jeannette
manhasset, ny 02/24/2009 01:34 PM EST
Rate: Excellent
If there was a true consensus, unity among all the Bishops; speaking the truth; in the Name of Jesus Christ under Pope Benedict we would not have the sin of abortion, homosexuality and on and on in America. Thank you Archbishop Chaput for being a true Christian. God bless you abundantly.
Published by: bjcass
Mooresville,NC 02/24/2009 01:33 PM EST
Rate: Excellent
Chaput is a courageous,candid and very articulate prelate.He refuses to use nuanced statements to reinforce the basic tenets of our Faith.His speeches and homilies should be studied by other Church leaders,both clergy and lay for illustrations of clarity and sharply focused messages.
Published by: Lapinbizarre
Columbia SC USA 02/24/2009 01:27 PM EST
Rate: Regular
"Noting that Obama actually trailed in the weeks just before the election" is a flat-out untruth. With the exception of the few days of McCain's short-lived post-convention bounce, Obama lead handily in the opinion polls, even those of the pro-Republican Fox News, throughout the Fall lead-up to the election.
Published by: Chuck
Atlanta, Georgia USA 02/24/2009 12:15 PM EST
Rate: Regular
Why wasn't the good archbishop making similar remarks to hard-core supporters of Bush a few months ago.
Published by: L.
warwick, ri, usa 02/24/2009 11:13 AM EST
Rate: Very Good
The adulation surrounding obama is sinful and wrong. It makes me think of the adoration of the anti-christ and how he will have people swooning over him. I believe obama is evil.
Published by: susan
mchenry 02/24/2009 10:06 AM EST
YOU ARE AWESOME!
Published by: Tim
columbia, md, usa 02/24/2009 09:41 AM EST
Archbishop Chaput is an inspiration to all Christians. He is a brave speaker of God's truth and love. Please keeping speaking the truth your Eminence.
Published by: Beth Smith
Alliance, NE, USA 02/24/2009 09:25 AM EST
Amen, Amen! ArchBishop Chaput I have followed your teaching since you were in S. Dakota and our Bishop was ill. Thank God for you. I will continue to pray for you and your true message to all catholics.
Published by: taad
louisville/usa 02/24/2009 09:18 AM EST
Why don't we have bishops like this appointed to New York, Washington, LA, and the like? Is their a fear of speaking the truth clearly? We seem to appoint politically correct men into the big cities, and nothing get done. Some of them fear these issues and confrontation. It is too bad. Good Bless Chaput!
Published by: Jack
NY 02/24/2009 09:00 AM EST
Well said. The Archbishop puts it well. There is a false messianic tone to Obama that people have been perpetuating, sort of like the Antichrist. Is it him? We hope not, but that most evil man (whoever he is) will emerge one day before the end of time and he will usher in Christ's return.
Published by: john
ny usa 02/24/2009 08:41 AM EST
Rate: Very Good
Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it. Right is right even if nobody is doing it. St Augustine
Published by: Mike Austen
Pembroke, ON, Canada 02/24/2009 08:09 AM EST
Thank you Archbishop Chaput for your courageous and concise remarks in my homeland. If only more of our Bishops spoke as forcefully and lovingly as you do.
Published by: AnnMarie Porta
Lady Lake,Fl 32159 02/24/2009 07:38 AM EST
Dear Sir,
We need all ArchBishops, Bishops, &all clergy to have the courage that Archbishop Chaput has and speak out in words and action.Praise God for his love of God & duty to save souls.
Published by: Don
Buffalo/NY/USA 02/24/2009 12:16 AM EST
Rate: Regular
So now the Archbishop is speaking out and warning us about a "spirit of adulation" for our President. I don't remember him warning us about the same thing when our last President received almost unwavering support from many Catholics because he was "pro-life" - even though he led us into an unjust war, denied health care to children, and used torture in the name of security. Perhaps the Archbishop should have had something to say in public about those evils as well.
Published by: Jack
IN 02/23/2009 09:41 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
We need ALL of our bishops to be like this great one. God bless Archbishop Chaput! When will all of the renegade or lost Catholics come back to the true Faith? We need our bishops to be solid and firm in the true Faith.
Published by: Rose
Salt Lake City, UT 02/23/2009 09:31 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
Thank God for Archbishop Chaput. We need about a thousand more like him and we'd be in good shape.
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