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Donohue and Obama advisors scuffle over Catholic identity, abortion
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.- Bill Donohue has stepped into the U.S. presidential fray by claiming that Senator Barack Obama’s Catholic National Advisory Council is composed entirely of people who are "dissenters" from the Catholic Church. In response, the advisory council has replied that they view abortion as a “profound moral issue” and that they consider candidates based on a broad set of issues, rather than a single issue. The scrap with Obama’s advisors, which has developed over the last few days, began when Bill Donohue, the President of the Catholic League, asserted that, “not one of the 26 former and current public policy holders who constitute the group stand with the Catholic Church on all three major issues: abortion, embryonic stem cell research and school vouchers.” Donohue also provided evidence showing that the overwhelming majority of Obama’s Catholic advisors have a 100% NARAL voting record. The 26 member advisory council, which includes two sisters and one priest, responded to Donohue’s accusation that they are “dissenters” from the Catholic Church by writing him a letter. In their letter, the council members counter Donohue’s charge that they don’t follow Church teaching on abortion by saying, “Unlike the Catholic League, the U.S. Catholic Bishops advise careful consideration of candidates’ positions on a broad set of issues.” This type of consideration, according to the council, is bolstered by the U.S. bishops’ document “Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship”. The advisors quote from paragraph 29 of the bishops’ document, where the bishops explain that Catholics cannot be against abortion and simultaneously ignore other offenses against human life. They advisors point out that this means, “particular issues must not be misused ‘as a way of dismissing or ignoring other serious threats to human life and dignity’ such as ‘racism and other unjust discrimination, the use of the death penalty, resorting to unjust war, the use of torture, war crimes, the failure to respond to those who are suffering from hunger or a lack of health care or an unjust immigration policy’." However, the council’s letter fails to mention that the bishops’ document also emphasizes the other extreme position which cannot be held by Catholics. This worldview involves “a moral equivalence that makes no ethical distinctions between different kinds of issues involving human life and dignity. The direct and intentional destruction of innocent human life from the moment of conception until natural death is always wrong and is not just one issue among many. It must always be opposed.” Instead, the advisors call abortion a “profound moral issue” and deride the Republican Party for promising to end abortion, but in the end only seeking to use the issue to divide voters. Bill Donohue replied to the council’s letter by saying, “It is more than embarrassing—it is shocking—to read how these Catholics view abortion. The Catholic Church regards abortion, as well as embryonic stem cell research, as ‘intrinsically evil.’ But not these folks. For them, abortion is merely ‘a profound moral issue.’” He also addressed the advisors’ categorizing of abortion, saying, “Sadly, it has been apparent for years that many who fancy themselves ‘progressive’ Catholics do not treat abortion the way they do racial discrimination. No one in his right mind says that the best way to combat racial discrimination is by changing people’s hearts and minds, not the law. Which is why we do both. But when it comes to abortion—including partial-birth abortion—the progressives settle for dialogue.” The National Catholic advisors see their role much differently however. They write, “We are proud to be counted among Senator Obama's Catholic advisors. Collectively our experience spans decades of scholarship and service working for and with the Catholic Church on the broad set of issues under the ‘consistent ethic of life.’” In their letter to Donohue, Obama’s advisors also say that the presidential candidate thinks abortion “presents a profound moral challenge”, but Donohue remains unconvinced. “It is so nice to know that Obama thinks abortion ‘presents a profound moral challenge.’ Is infanticide another ‘profound moral challenge’? To wit: When he was in the Illinois state senate he led the fight to deny health care to babies born alive who survived an abortion. That, my friends, is not a moral challenge—it’s a Hitlerian decision,” Donohue said.
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Published by: Mary Jo Robke
Louisville, KY 10/04/2008 05:17 PM EST
Barrack Obama is not the the judge to define religion< if he were really a christian he would view abortion as it is, murder.
Published by: E. Humphrey
Pittsburgh, PA 08/25/2008 09:17 PM EST
Shame on Catholics who pay no attention to their church. I am Anglo-Catholic, and used to being out of step with ECUSA, but had hoped for better among educated Roman Catholics. A great article!
Published by: Bev Gee
Columbus, OH USA 06/11/2008 09:48 PM EST
Bill, keep speaking the TRUTH...Jesus loves you and so do I - love to hear what you have to say in defense of the TRUE FAITH. Praise the Lord!
Published by: Nancy Seip
Merritt Island, FL 05/26/2008 01:10 PM EST
Those aren't genuine Catholics on Obama's committee. They just like to say they are. They are quite the opposite of true Catholics. I will be kind here and not use the word "heretics."
Published by: mmg
AZ 05/16/2008 12:36 AM EST
The sad part about this is that Obama has stacked his committee with Catholics that have the same mind set. How does that encourage dialogue from both sides. Of course, they will agree with each other and Obama will continue with his way of thinking. Sad that he will not hear the other side of the story. This indicates that all other issues will be handled the same way- one sided thinking. He should have put Fr. Pavone, or God's pitbull, Fr. Corapi(I mean that as a compliment). Pray that the Holy Spirit will soften Obama heart and innocent people will be saved from death. This is not just a moral issue it is a right to Life!
Published by: F Davis
Tucson, AZ 05/15/2008 09:52 AM EST
Sen. Obama is not Roman Catholic and cannot be expected to support all Catholic dogma and doctrine. But he is a caring, compassionate Christian who as President will pay attention to all Americans, especially those who are forced to live on the margins. This includes the poor, men and women in prison, GLBT folks, and people whose skin is a different color or whose milk language is not English. That's enough to convince me to vote for him.
Published by: Deacon John M. Bresnahan
Lynn, Ma. USA 05/14/2008 05:18 PM EST
When is the media going to reveal the truth??? As an Illinois senator he not only was fanatically in favor of abortion, but was the most prominent Illinois politician to endorse infanticide. Noone asks Kennedy, Kerry and the other Catholic politicians if they also agree with Obama on infanticide. In fact the liberal media seems determined to deep six the issue to protect Obama. Hopefully some media outlet with integrity will raise the issue. Maybe Fox which has in the past revealed stories the MSM has wanted hidden.
Published by: moses FIDELIS
NIGERIA 05/14/2008 05:20 AM EST
Anyone fighting against God is ALWAYS a loser.Bill don't give up on the course that is right.BRAVO!
Published by: Sissy
Weslaco, TX usa 05/13/2008 08:42 PM EST
Sad, some so called Catholics are more faithful to the Democrat party than they are to the Faith that should be the foundation of their lives.
It's not Donohou's fault that the Democrat party has chosen to be solidly pro abortion. That political party left me. I for one could not possibly support them anymore, considering what they have become and what they now stand for. Those 26 appear to believe they are somehow smarter than Our Lord Himself. What arrogance. I applaud Mr. Donohou and all those willing to stand up for the truth.
Published by: Dorothy Swingle
Zanesville, Ohio USA 05/13/2008 06:16 PM EST
Please PRAY OBAMA does not get it ??? Who ever heard of such OBAMA HUSSEN as our leader, will not use the BIBLE or anything our COUNRTY stands for????
Published by: Patrick S
Indianapolis, IN 05/13/2008 04:18 PM EST
I'm a bit confused by M Rittelemyer's comments. With all respect, I don't belong to the Catholic League either but I thank God for when they stand up for the true teaching of the Catholic Church. Politics have nothing to do with that. The times they are achangin and the days of trying to have your cake and eat it too are drawing to a close. You are either Catholic or you are not. The Church is not a democracy regardless of what Obama's council wish or hope fore. Never was, never will be. Being an active Catholic is not going to accomplish anything if you are not first an ARDENT Catholic.
Published by: Joan Roccasalvo
NY, NY 05/13/2008 03:47 PM EST
The bishops will ultimately be forced into this dilemma. Sen. Obama's record on infanticide must be more publicized than it is. His record on abortion is to the left of the ACLU and NARAL and is directly repugnant to any decent-minded person regardless of religion.
Published by: Joe W
Conway, AR 05/13/2008 03:37 PM EST
They forget to mention the CDC Data showing that Abortions are heading up again under this Pro-Life administration for certain groups. The abortion issue is much more complex than Mr. Donohue wants to admit. As Obama's Advisors note there are many other things we must be concerned about as well. The Church wants us to think of how we can best solve this and other issues concerning Life, not just blindly follow a single issue. However that issue is indeed one of the greatest travesties of our age.
If we are to ever succeed at changing that, we must change the mindset of the Nation and that requires culture change. We were winning that battle in the 90s under a Fiscal Liberal candidate, who happened to be Pro-Choice, but have stagnated and lost ground recently. We must bring economic stability to the country, get out of this unjust war and take care of our brothers and sister – those with Christ and those without. It is at that point that our Pro-Life movement will once again have a great impact upon the belief systems of our nation. THAT is when we can push for change. We must change the culture if there is ever to be an end to abortion in the United States. I believe the Catholic League needs to rethink some of its positions in order to make the impact they truly desire. Rooted deeply in the Truth of Christ and His Church, Pro-Life and Supporting Barrack Obama, Joe
Published by: Linda
Brantford, Ontario 05/13/2008 03:34 PM EST
You don't have to be a member of the Catholic League to recognize that the people on this list are anything BUT Catholic. Baptised Catholic? - Yep. Believing Catholic in union with Rome? Not a chance.
Oh wait! If a Catholic is NOT in union with the Holy Father, is s/he really a Catholic? Umm - No!Does presenting oneself for Communion during Mass override that sef-excommunication and restore one's status as a Catholic? Umm - No again! But, the senator can use them similarly to the way they have used the Church over the years; convenience is a great opportunist.
Published by: CT
Washington, DC 05/13/2008 02:46 PM EST
It's a shame that the coverage of Obama's good-will effort to reach out to Catholics has been reduced to a report on the negative reaction to it form the Republican party's Catholic shill, Bill Donahue.
Sen. Obama has shown that he respects Catholics and their point of view. Neither of the viable candidates in this election is 100% in agreement with church teaching. The question is which candidate stands with the church on the lion's share of issues. That person is Barack Obama, from his steadfast support of human dignity, a option for the poor and workers, solidarity with immigrants, opposition to the unjust war in Iraq, and stewardship of the enviroment. What's more, he'll do it all through unity, not division. Hopefully, Catholics like Bill Donahue come around. If they don't, they may miss the boat on this truly transformative candidate.
Published by: Don Curry
Litte Rock, AR, USA 05/13/2008 06:35 AM EST
In that above list, Pflegar is a radical priest who is a regular attendee at "Rev" Wright's church, and is a huge supporter of Wright. Just Google "Michael Pfleger Wright" to see the video of him praising Farrakhan on youtube. Ive seen video of him preaching in Wright's church. Obama is really a radical, not manstream at all.
Published by: M Rittelmeyer
Mobile, Alabama 05/12/2008 11:24 PM EST
At one time I belonged to The Catholic League !! They do some good--but I realized that the BIG Issue with Bill Donohue was to PUSH the Republican Agenda !! He lost me and a lot of other folk!!The Catholic League lost me not the Catholic Church !! I am an 81 year old Active Catholic !!
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