Fr. Bourgeois will not renounce stand to avoid excommunication
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Fr. Roy Bourgeois M.M.

.- Father Roy Bourgeois, a Maryknoll priest who participated in the attempted ordination of a woman to the priesthood, has been told by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to renounce his support for women’s ordination or be excommunicated. The priest has affirmed he will make no such renunciation.

The Vatican action results from an August 8 ceremony at a Unitarian church. There, the Carmel-by-the-Sea woman Dana Reynolds, who claims to be a Catholic bishop, purported to ordain Janice Sevre-Duszynska as a Catholic priest. According to the California Catholic Daily, Father Bourgeois delivered the homily at the event, reportedly equating Catholic teaching that the Church has no authority to ordain women with the segregation of African-Americans in Louisiana, his home state.

His participation in the ceremony was reportedly the first to have involved a Catholic priest in good standing with the Church in the United States.

Father Bourgeois’ Maryknoll superiors, learning of the incident, summoned him to a meeting in Maryknoll, New York. A joint statement from the priest and his superiors reported that his participation in the ceremony had been investigated and communicated to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome.

The priest’s superiors also gave him a “canonical warning” informing him that he had violated Church law and advising him a future violation could result in his excommunication.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in an October 21 letter gave Father Bourgeois 30 days to renounce his public support for the ordination of women on penalty of excommunication.

In a November 7 letter recently made public, he wrote: “After much prayer, reflection and discernment, it is my conscience that compels me to do the right thing. I cannot recant my belief and public statements that support the ordination of women in our Church.”

The priest said he knew many women who feel called to the priesthood and argued that the Church cannot declare their reputed calling to be invalid.

Ordained a Maryknoll priest in 1972, Father Bourgeois is well-known for leading annual protests outside the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, which was formerly called the School of the Americas (SOA), at Fort Benning, Georgia. Graduates of the institute have been linked to human rights violations in Latin America.

CNA spoke with Father Bourgeois in a Thursday phone interview, asking about his response to the threatened excommunication.

“I’m hoping for the best,” the priest said, referring to his “deep love for the Church” and his 36 years of ministry. “I’m hoping somehow justice will prevail,” he said, adding that he hoped the Congregation for the Faith will take seriously his letter.

“I do believe, with all due respect, there’s no reason theologically or morally that we can justify women not being included in the priesthood,” he insisted, adding that he is not alone in being critical of Catholic teaching on women’s ordination.

Father Bourgeois said he would particularly like an answer to his question “What do we say to women who are being called by God to the priesthood?”

He repeated his comments about meeting women, “very devout Catholics,” who profess to be called to the priesthood.

“Who are we to say our call is valid, but the call that women have and feel in their faith is not valid?” he asked.

“That call does not come from the Pope, that call does not come from our hierarchy, that call is very sacred, it comes from our God, who has created men and women of equal stature and dignity,” he asserted.

He compared his work against the “injustice” of the School of the Americas to working against the “injustice in my Church” which he described as the “exclusion of women from the priesthood.”

When CNA asked Father Bourgeois his plans if he is in fact excommunicated, he said he had consulted with some canon lawyers.

“I am the only Catholic priest that has been in this position in the U.S. They couldn’t give me any person I could call who has been in this same situation on this same issue.

“I really don’t know what the implications, the consequences will be,” he continued, reporting that because he believes that God is leading him on this issue and “because of my conscience,” he feels “very much at peace.”

If he is excommunicated, he knows he will not be able to say Mass publicly.

“I will not be able to go home to baptize the new babies in the family; I will not be able to say the Mass for my Mom who died. And that will be very difficult.

“At the same time, I cannot not do what I am doing. I must follow my God I must follow my conscience.

“I do believe that good will come from this.”

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Published by: Maureen Kennedy
United States 05/24/2009 09:39 AM EST
From the age of fifteen I have felt God telling me to pursue ministry. I believe that God created men and women as equals, and that no hierarchy on earth has the right to invalidate this calling.

I met Father Roy last fall, and he told me that women like me were the reason he was willing to remove his presence from the Catholic church.

He may be a "bad Catholic" but he is a good Christian--one who recognizes that God's Word can take many forms and be spread by many different messengers.

Father Roy: Thank you for taking this stand. Follow your conscience, for it is from there that Christ speaks.
You are my hero.
God Bless.
Published by: Chris Dickson
USA 02/08/2009 09:43 PM EST
Fr. Bourgeois would be better served leading the faithful into personal holiness rather than Liberation Theology.

Authentic charisms never contradeict the heirarchical function of the Church whose magesterium and ministry do not tend to 'stifle the Spirit' but to 'test everything and retain what is good' (1 Thess. 5:19).
Published by: Rose
SLC, Utah 11/24/2008 08:53 PM EST
Is this about affirmation as women? Are we really this insecure about who and what we are? We give birth, we nurture, we need no other affirmation! Jesus selected men to be his apostles; he allowed women to wash his feet and feed him. What an honor!
Published by: David
Bronx,NY,USA 11/22/2008 06:26 PM EST
There is no way that Fr. Bourgeois' consciences pangs over the ordination of women could be superior to his role as a priest for the Church. He will regret his behavior only after he is excommunicated. It seems that poorly trained priest or those drenched with sodden sentimentality, no doubt because they spend to much time with cunning women, are a serious danger for the Church, one only has to look at Marin Luther.
Published by: H.J. D"cruz
Karachi Pakistan 11/22/2008 03:07 AM EST
M/S Healy should not only condemn catholic priest for sex abuse scandels which occured over a period of 50 years. She has failed to see the web sites that Protestants and other religions clerics are as much involved in these activities.
Published by: Joseph Misango
Tanzania 11/19/2008 03:34 AM EST
I'm a laity who take sometime reading role, responsibility and actions of ECUMINISM department. Can someone enlight me whether Catholic ecumenism ever work within the church. I'm afraid these people who leave the church due to their differences we might meet one day having them in other dnomination sitting together in ecumenical table discussing the differences while we could have dicsussed before they left. Kindly Jose.
Published by: Rose
SLC, Utah 11/17/2008 11:01 PM EST
Women have enough to do as mothers and wives - we don't need to be cluttering up the sanctuary with our presence. A good person Fr.Bourgeois may be, but he is a disobedient priest. Doesn't HE have enough to do tending his flock? Does he really need to get involved in things that are way out of his authority, like ordaining women?
Published by: Stephanie Abraham
Los Angeles, CA USA 11/17/2008 04:31 PM EST
It’s wonderful that Father Bourgeois has taken a stand here. Female leadership in the Church needs to honored and respected. He was rightfully respected for standing up for the civil rights of those detained at the School of the Americas. Now, he deserves the same respect for standing up for the spiritual rights within our own beloved Church. His courage is an example of true leadership. That we may all follow his example.
Published by: Mary Lou Doran
Plymouth,MA 11/15/2008 07:42 PM EST
I have personally known Fr. Roy for over 25 years and I need to say he is one of the most peaceful, humble people I have ever met. I will continue to be his friend and support him in whatever way I can.

I thank God that there are folks that can look clearly at this issue.

I recently attended the Call To Action in Wisconsin, and was able to participate in the most meaningful liturgy I have ever attended. This liturgy was concelebrated by several folks, including women who also have been ordained to the priesthood.

Thank you. Mary Lou
Published by: Dr. William Luckey
Frontr Royal, VA 11/15/2008 04:05 PM EST
I thinnk it is odd that FatherBourgeois' "great love" for the Church has no room for obedience to that same Church. In a secular job he would have gotten his pink slip already.
Published by: Tony Pelletier
Moncton, Canada 11/15/2008 07:08 AM EST
It is true that a priest (or any Catholic) is faithful to God when she/he is faithful to the Church. But let's speak with charity about Fr. Bourgeois. I don't mean to renounce our convictions or be silent. But let's not push him outside the Church. My utmost wish is not that he be excommunicated to cleanse the Church from heresy but instead that he may be reconcilied with the Church of our Lord.
Published by: Mary Haley
Seattle 11/15/2008 02:34 AM EST
Doesn't it strike any of you as odd that 5000 priests sexually abusing 12,000+ children are NOT excommunicated, only de-frocked. And Fr. Bourgeois is excommunicated? This is sad, really sad.
Published by: H.J. D"cruz
Karachi Pakistan 11/14/2008 11:50 PM EST
This priest should folow the rules of the church. All the desiples of Christ were male but women can play an active part in other church activities and assist priests in many ways.
However marries priest should also be considered to fill the shortage.
Published by: Harold Eckhoff
Clarksburg WV USA 11/14/2008 01:04 PM EST
This story is another example of a person who can not accept authority or has forgotten his vows. It is not a matter of choice for him. We as Catholics may have preferences that do not agree with a particular church teaching....But we should not let "self-pride" take over rather we shough use thoughtful prayer and contemplation. This priest's behavior is hurtful to the church he claims to love....He speaks of his conscience not allowing him etc. Rather, it is his pride and his erroneous conscience that seem to have gottten in his way. Let us hope and pray for him since this type behavior is unbecoming of a priest and especially one who has spent so many years serving God through His church.
Published by: Victor MacArthur
Chicago/IL/USA 11/14/2008 01:02 PM EST
The last two lines tell it all: "I must follow 'my God' I must follow 'my conscience.'"

Wrong God, and ill-formed conscience, here folks, nothing to see, move along, everybody just move along!

Idiot!

Soon to be Unitarian...

He needs to sit down with some JPII and hopefully get right with Our Merciful Savior.
Published by: WM
US 11/14/2008 12:59 PM EST
The priest is "hoping that the Congregation for the Faith will take seriously [his] letter." Congrats, Father. You got your wish.

You stated that the call to the priesthood comes from God and not from the Pope or the Church hierarchy. Obviously, you deny the authority of the Magisterium or that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ. If God gives the call, He would certainly make HIS CHURCH aware of it (and not through private interpretation, either.) "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in Heaven; whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in Heaven." Sound familiar? Christ gave His Church solid authority and vowed to back Her up.
Published by: Almar
Canada 11/14/2008 11:49 AM EST
Fr. Bourgeois' failure to be obedient to the Church's Magisterium is a sad example of how far human pride can go. It shows why humility is so important for a priest. The "I am right; the Church is wrong" attitude is simply un-Christian and especially un-Catholic. Let us pray for Father's return to the Church founded by Jesus Christ.
Published by: Baby Rose
IL USA 11/14/2008 11:25 AM EST
Fr. B's informed conscience should be in harmony with the thinking of the Church on this matter. Pope JP II wrote the Church's answer in 1994. A woman can not be in personna Christi with the Bride of Christ, the Church.

If Fr. B were to be obedient to Jesus through His Church, then he could continue to do his priestly duties & privilege; Mass for his mom & children's baptisms. He is punishing himself over an erroneous principle & Satan is soon to completely cripple another priest.

r. B; conform your mind to the Christ mind and be not transformed by the world. Rom 12:1-2*
Published by: Douglas Cook
Madison Al 11/14/2008 11:01 AM EST
Notice how Father Roy Bourgeois uses the first person singular "I". The almighty "I". No mention of Scripture, Teachings, Tradition, Dogma or Magisterium. Obviously Father’s personal “opinion” does not meet the standards of our almost 2,000 year old church. Maybe he can find a female apostle as some other so-called “theologians” have tried to do. Sad, that a man can be so full of himself that he thinks he has the power of Christ in all things. Note, in the article not one mention of Christ.

Also, his anti-American “attacks” on the School of the Americas (SOA), at Fort Benning, Georgia are a good indicator of the quality of this guy, first attack his country next attack his Church. What a guy! .
Published by: D'Arcy
Canada 11/14/2008 10:09 AM EST
How someone can be a priest for so long and yet ignorant of two points of basic Catholic Theology is beyond me:
1) the "Call" is the work of the bishop, after reviewing the candidates merits, HE decides if one is worthy of the priesthood. NOT the candidate.
2) Pope JP II has already said, infallibly, that women cannot be priests. The issue is closed for Catholics.
This priest needs to go back to seminary...
Published by: Mike in KC, MO
Kansas City, MO, USA 11/14/2008 09:35 AM EST
So, Fr. Bourgeois stands and shouts "Non Servium!"

I'm trying to remember, wasn't there a major figure that said basically the same thing, I mean a REALLY long time ago?

Can good come from this? Of course, God can bring good from any evil. But there will still be much evil that comes from it too. We have to pray for him that he will not give in to pride and refuse the authority of Holy Mother Church.
Published by: victor M.
bergenfield, nj 11/14/2008 07:39 AM EST
If this priest feels the way he does, he should join the Lutherans or Anglicans. In such denominations, they feel as he does and practice what he practices. If he feels so strong for the Catholic faith there must be a reason and he should protect his position in the church by following orders from his superior. It is very simple. I believe that excomunication is more serious than what he claims, "unavaible to celebrate mass in public". Excomunication means that even if he cebrates mass in private, it would have no effect, because his blessing has been taken away, like it happened to Jacob's older brother. That would be the price this rebel priest would pay for his lack of wisdom.
Published by: Fr. John Abberton
England 11/14/2008 06:20 AM EST
This matter points to the fract that many priests have an unsound understanding of the spiritual life as well as Sacred Scripture. This priest's problems are complex, but not uncommon. It is difficult to deal with because there is much that is subjective in his response. The Hierarchy and the Vatican need to deal with this situation now - as they are dealing with other issues. The real root of this is the faulty training given to seminarians and the bad teaching that has been encouraged in Dioceses and on in-service training courses. Fundamentally it is a problem of not really understanding the spiritual life.
I was ordained in 1975 and like many priests of my generation have had to deal with these problems myself - with the help of good books, spiritual directors and good friends. The post 60's and early 70's generation of priests have suffered because of bad teaching and - on the whole - insufficient preparation for ministry. Although my seminary was very good and took the changes (Vatican 11)very well and in a mature way, subsequently things did not go so well. There must be a return to Thomism and sound philosophy as well as to very good and thorough spiritual writers. Only this will get us away from these subjective emotianlly immature responses.
Published by: Loretta Hoffman
Timonium, MD, U.S.A. 11/13/2008 11:49 PM EST
Fr. Bourgeois needs to be reminded that all calls from God to a vocation comes to a person through the Church which Jesus created and through the authority which He established. How foolish for Father to give up his priesthood and his Catholic faith. Father needs to have his conscience formed and informed by the Church, not public opinions. May God rescue him from going down the wrong path! Pray for him!
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