Nancy Pelosi tries to spin meeting with Pope Benedict
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Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi

.- After her meeting with the Holy Father this morning, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi released a statement highlighting the positive aspects of the meeting but ignoring the Pope’s correction of her support for legal abortion.

In her statement, Pelosi says:

“It is with great joy that my husband, Paul, and I met with His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI, today. In our conversation, I had the opportunity to praise the Church’s leadership in fighting poverty, hunger, and global warming, as well as the Holy Father’s dedication to religious freedom and his upcoming trip and message to Israel. I was proud to show His Holiness a photograph of my family’s papal visit in the 1950s, as well as a recent picture of our children and grandchildren.”

In contrast, the Holy See released a statement regarding the meeting noting that Pope Benedict spoke “of the requirements of the natural moral law” and also “the Church’s consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception until natural death, which enjoin all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists, and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of development.”

Comparing the two releases, Catholic commentator and author George Weigel responded saying that the statement from the office of Pelosi makes it obvious that there is more to the story: “that Pelosi, who shamelessly trumpets her ‘ardent’ Catholicism while leading congressional Democrats in a continuing assault on what the Catholic Church regards as the inalienable human rights of the unborn, was trying to recruit Benedict XVI to Team Nancy.”

But Pope Benedict wasn’t swayed, Weigel told the National Review Online.

During the meeting, the Holy Father told her “politely but unmistakably” that her pro-abortion support puts “her in serious difficulties as a Catholic, which was his obligation as a pastor.”

Furthermore, Weigel asserts, Pope Benedict was directing his words to other pro-abortion Catholics in the United States:  Joe Biden, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Barbara Mikulski, Rose DeLauro, Kathleen Sebelius, and others clarifying to them that the Catholic stance against abortion “is not some weird Catholic hocus-pocus; it’s a first principle of justice than can be known by reason.”

“It is a ‘requirement of the natural moral law’,” says Weigel, “that is, the moral truths we can know by thinking about what is right and what is wrong — to defend the inviolability of innocent human life. You don’t have to believe in papal primacy to know that; you don’t have do believe in seven sacraments, or the episcopal structure of the Church, or the divinity of Christ, to know that. You don’t even have to believe in God to know that. You only have to be a morally serious human being, willing to work through a moral argument — which, of course, means being the kind of person who understands that moral truth cannot be reduced to questions of feminist political correctness or partisan political advantage.”

Though it is apparent that Pelosi is “deeply confused about what her church teaches on the morality of abortion,” Weigel continues, she “has now been informed, and by a world-class intellectual who happens to be the universal pastor of the Catholic Church, that she is, in fact, confused, and that both her spiritual life and her public service are in jeopardy because of that.”

Weigel adds that even though President Obama is not Catholic, “he should understand that he will get the same message if, as expected, he meets with His Holiness later this year.”

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Subscriber comments:
Published by: Rey Ruiz
Phoenix, AZ USA 03/19/2009 01:28 PM EST
The stance on life has always been the same when Moses recieved the 10 commanments. "Thou Shall Not Kill". The unborn do not have that chance of free choice. God gave man the right to chose him or not. War has been part of man almost since the begging of time, but man still has that right to chose war. Our politicians know the moral truth of what God intend when he said those words to Moses. We should all follow our faith when we make discessions, In the end we all answer for them to God when we die. I jusy hope mine get me to heaven.
" What about you" !!!!!!
Published by: JW
Pennsylvania, USA 02/25/2009 10:04 PM EST
Let's get real, folks!The Catholic church has been ambiguous for centuries. The reason why religious leaders will not condemn purportedly "catholic" politicians is trying to play both sides of the issue. If you are following the magisterium of the Catholic church, folks who are public officials like Nancy and Joe would be excommunicated. Please! Have a rule or X it out!!
Published by: Ron Pichlik
Battle Creek, MI USA 02/23/2009 07:20 PM EST
Rate: Excellent
To RJB in Netherlands: I do not know the state of your soul and do not pretend to make such an assessment. However, the solution to abortion is not to promote contraceptive education to our school children, (in case you didn't know it the Church condemns that practice as well). Your analogy of abortion to the war in Iraq is a poor one. The Pope urged the parties to avoid violence and war; however, he never declared the war an "unjust" one. Abortion on the contrary is clearly and unequivocally defined as "intrinsically evil". Caving in and justifying one evil, promiscuity, to avoid another evil, abortion is not the answer. The answer is to learn and adhere to the teachings of Christ through His Church. Lastly, your assertion that we shouldn't be "judgmental" is erroneous. Scripture clearly tells us that we will and can know people by their "fruits"; ergo, while we should never judge where someone will end up we most certainly can know whether a person stands for righteousness or evil by what they promote and espouse to believe in. Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Biden clearly engaged in evil when they attempted to tell Catholics what the Church teaches and/or believes when they knew that what they were saying was a lie. Our problem in this country will not be solved by sex-ed it will be solved when the right to exist is extended to the unborn.
Published by: Steve Savage "King of the Beasts"
USA 02/23/2009 01:14 PM EST
It's all a sham, part of the play, as it were. If the Church was really serious about stopping abortion they would have denounced demagogues of this ilk who are enabling the slaughter of innocents, long ago, "when the snake was young," and publicly excommunicate them from the Church. It's nice to praise the Lord but how about passing the ammunition!
Published by: RJB
The Netherlands 02/23/2009 06:52 AM EST
Rate: Regular
Mr Pichlik in Battle Creek and others, you make it even worse: now I'm suddenly "pro death". I can asure you I'm not at all..

John, 8:7

Why are you all so judgemental? Why aren't you adressing the root of this problem?

In the Netherlands - where abortion is legal under certain circumstances - we have the lowest abortion rate of the world.

Why would that be? The most reasonable explanation seems to be: because we don't hold all those hypocritical views on sexuality. We acknowledge the possibility that teenagers sleep with each other and give them birth control.. We have a very good system of sex-ed in The Netherlands. Everyone here knows how to avoid getting pregnant.

Whereas in the US: one pretends that teenage sexuality does not exist and therefore you have so many teen-moms, and teen-abortions.

The Church should be a loving, caring church in stead of a harsh, judgemental one.

To me it's totally unlogic why it was OK for catholics to support George W. Bush, who started an illegal war, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people and why it would be a sin, to support Barack Obama, who wants to end that war and who happens to be pro-choice.
Published by: Joseph Wagner
Sarasota f.l. 34238 usa 02/21/2009 02:53 AM EST
Hi

Pope Benedict XVI 's stand on "life begins at conception" is very clear and very correct.
Sincerely
Joseph J. Wagner
Published by: Brian
Port. OR USA 02/21/2009 02:09 AM EST
If a person belives in God they MUST believe He is the Creator of ALL life. Anyone who KILLS that life DENIES JESUS CHRIST of His Creation. Whoo to Them!
Published by: Paul Gray
Costa Mesa, CA, USA 02/20/2009 08:53 PM EST
Pelosi and Democrats in general are so corrupt with their own lies that they wouldn'y know the truth if it bit them ..... oh well, she has a right to her own opinion but this does NOT change the facts - I pray daily for her conversion!
Published by: Bill
Radcliff, Ky 02/20/2009 07:35 PM EST
Ms Pelosi may beleive she is a good catholic,by her standard, but by definition good catholics, must have a morally correct conscience, open to fulfilling God's will. So like faith without works is dead, so is the unborn dead without the right to life. It is morally illogical as such considering abortion is the final extension of birth control denying that right to life of a human person.
Published by: Gloria
Chesterfield, MI, USA 02/20/2009 06:08 PM EST
God bless our pope! Thank you Jesus for gifting us with Pope Benedict! Nancy Pelosi better repent of her views before it is too late for her. We will pray for her and all the pro-choice "Catholics"
Published by: Jon Dough
Boston MA 02/20/2009 05:46 PM EST
Boy is she going to be surprised when she gets to Heavens Gates. She will demand entrance and say: "Dont you know who I am". They will say "Sadly Yes" and down to the fires she will go. all the while declaring I was an ardent Catholic ask any one of my associates!
Published by: Ron Pichlik
Battle Creek, MI USA 02/20/2009 05:42 PM EST
RJB in Netherlands. Your observation is the typical political spin that this issue gets. For example; during our recent presidential election candidate Obama stated that he too wished to reduce the number of abortions, and that this was common ground. Now the facts: since his election he has freed up US tax dollars to go to supporting NGO's that promote, preach and perform abortions. How in the world does that "help" reduce the number of abortions. The facts of the new president's actions put the lie to his statements. Those who claim to be "pro-choice" are actually using poor grammar; what "choice" are they in favor of supporting. It is clearly the "choice" of supporting a woman's choice to murder her unborn children. So with all due respect, being pro-choice is in fact being pro-abortion; or, more specifically, it should be called pro-death. This is because, logically, every successful abortion procedure, to be considered successful must result in murder, (or death if you prefer), of a child. So, please if you support abortion at least have the courage of your convictions and call it what it is instead of hiding behind a grammatically flawed euphemism, like "pro-choice".
Published by: Lois Emsweller
Dublin, Ohio 43017 02/20/2009 04:29 PM EST
We do not believe in abortion period, no exceptions
Published by: Rose
Salt Lake City, UT 02/20/2009 02:32 PM EST
Patrick in St. Louis - of the 40 entries currently posted, I would bet that very few voted for the current president.
Published by: flora
st. john's, nl, ca. 02/20/2009 02:23 PM EST
This woman is catholic only in name. I pray that her heart of stone will be turned into a heart of flesh to make her realize that she is wrong in promoting abortion and that God's law says, You shall not kill. She must not put her own thoughts before God's. God have Mercy when she meets God face to face on judgement day. Woman "repent" and get yourself on the right track to God.
Published by: MommaK
St. Louis/MO/USA 02/20/2009 02:13 PM EST
Continued from my previous post:

Even so, I offer this: Nationwide Petition Launched To Withhold Communion From Speaker Pelosi, V. P. Biden and Other Prominent Dissenting Catholics


I sought the counsel of my priest about the petition because the Eucharist is so very important to a Catholic, I felt ill at ease at the idea of being a lay person and possibly causing it to be taken from other Catholics. That being said, these are very public figures who give scandal casually and frequently and still claim to be Catholic AND have done so for many years. They are wrong about Church teachings but claim to be right and persist in their stubborn refusal to see the Truth, all the while possibly leading countless other Catholics down the road to perdition with their words, views and actions. So, what recourse is there if I am obliged to help and there is even a possibility that this might result in a positive outcome?

This makes me uncomfortable. I know it is not my place to judge. But, the Church makes it clear that those who are publicly and vocally anti-life should not be receiving our Lord in the Eucharist. The dissenters are the ones responsible for preventing proper receipt of the Eucharist. They choose to commit sacrilege. I think it is time for that to stop and I'll do what I can to aid that end.
Published by: RJB
The Netherlands 02/20/2009 01:53 PM EST
Rate: Regular
depicting Speaker Pelosi's point of view as being "pro-abortion" is a malicious falsifciation. No human being is "pro-abortion". She is pro-choice, which is totally different. Why can't we all leave judgements where they belong?
Published by: Tina Hemond
Chicopee, MA 02/20/2009 01:46 PM EST
The Organization, “Catholics For Choice”, highlights this past election, specifically as regards to politicians such as Pelosi and the impact they have on maintaining abortion rights. This website implies that it is a "majority" of Catholics who hold abortion (and a host of other issues) as a right of choice, and it is extremely objectionable. It is a political advantage for Ms. Pelosi, to express herself as an "Ardent Catholic", rather than one who is in open opposition to Church doctrine, due to the impact of the Catholic vote. Pope Benedict did a service to all Catholics in his statements vis a vis Ms. Pelolsi
Published by: Eliana
Pompano Beach Fl 02/20/2009 12:44 PM EST
To the comment from Mr Bill Sr.
You can receive the Eucharist if you are divorced. The Church is no longer strict about it. I was divorced, now my marriage is annulled and I received the Eucharist, the Church wants to pull in does who were divorced in the 60th and 70th.
Mrs Pelosi even though I also believe that she and along other so called Catholics that are promoting abortion should be excommunicated but will it solve the problem? If they new and really believed Who they were receiving 'BODY AND
BLOOD OF CHRIST", Pelosi and everyone else not only politicians but Catholics among our Church, would be shaking when receiving our PRESCIOUS JESUS.
PRAY, PRAY, PRAY, ROSERY, ROSERY ROSERY...WITH GOD NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE...... THESE PEOPLE ARE INGNORANT ABOUT OUR FAITH. I'll change that I don't believe that they are ignorant, they want to make history, that is what they think.....Pelosi was educated by JESUS IN THE CLOTHING OF OUR POPE BENEDICT XVI so if she was ignorant before she is not now. Ignorance is forgive but once you know....you fill the blanks. Deep inside of her Pelosi knows the truth the Holy Spirit needs at His time to convict her of it.
Published by: Francis Xavier T
Washington, D.C. 02/20/2009 12:13 PM EST
Dear Martin in Nebraska, Thank you for your meaningful comments. I definitely will pray for the conversion of those pro-abortion politicians. I am well aware and have specifically read into the definition of the “excommunication” just like you said correctly. I have read two books about excommunication. However, many Catholics mistakenly think that excommunication just means being kicked-out the Church. I also attended one of the Faithful Citizen workshops before the election. Please let me tell you that I was very disturbed. Do you know how many bishops, priests and nuns voted for President Obama? The USCCB did not want to tell you that. Now, the Catholics are blaming the Church, the politicians, and the ardent Catholics instead of some of the bad leaders in our Church. The Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI is ashamed because 54% of our Catholics voted for a pro-abortion candidate because the Faithful Citizen workshop tried to tell us that we should vote for the issues of “common goods.”
Published by: paul musial
Antigonish, N.S., Can. 02/20/2009 11:50 AM EST
the apparent disregard that ms. Pelosi has for the Church she professes to follow is indigative of the direction that the modern world is taking. It will take a mmajor occurance to shake people into the reality of God's presence and the present economic recession may just be the thing to do it.
Published by: Sam
Woodbury,CT.,USA 02/20/2009 11:29 AM EST
The ball is not only in Pelosi's court now but in the court of our Bishops. Cardinal Egan likened abortion to the Holocaust...would our Bishops & Priests have given the Eucharist to those who actively fostered and participated in the slaughter of so many? I think not. Why, then, continue to offer the Eucharist to those who foster and publicly stand by the laws that allow the exterination of human babies? it just doesn't make sense!! By continuing to offer Communion to politicians who not only support abortion but who push for it as Pelosi does, says to everyone that it is not such a grave evil...so the Bishops who do not speak out about this are as complicit as pelosi and other Catholic pro-abortion politicians...they are all collaborators in this evil!!! Let us pray...for them for us all.
Published by: Patrick
St. Louis, Mo. USA 02/20/2009 11:04 AM EST
I wonder how many who have commented also voted for our current President.

Support for abortion in any way is a grave sin.
Published by: Kathy Reilly
Greenville SC USA 02/20/2009 10:46 AM EST
Poor thing she does not even realize her scandalous behavior, really has excommunicated her from her church. So much for her belief that she is an "ardent
Catholic" Prayers are needed for the conversion of her soul.
Published by: Pamela
Franklin, TN, USA 02/20/2009 10:27 AM EST
Jacqueline of
Florham Park, NJ, I understand your sentiment, but we can not forget the dissident Catholic Republicans ie. Schwarzenneger, Guilliani, etc., either. This is a bipartisan problem ;). And Tim is so right about half of the bishops probably voting for them. I'd add in half of the clergy as a whole. We must all pray for them. They have become blinded to the Truth by an adherence to something akin to Marxist Liberation Theology. The Pope has his work cut out for him.
Published by: MaryAnn
Michigan/USA 02/20/2009 10:24 AM EST
Pray for Pelosi and the rest now, and after they are excommunicated and refused Holy Communion. They are causing serious scandal and making the Church look foolish in it's unwillingness to take action in standing up for it's beliefs; the Church needs to address this if it wants to be taken seriously.
Published by: Wally
Enfield/CT/USA 02/20/2009 12:52 AM EST
Spinning the truth is just what I would expect from Speaker Pelosi! Now that Pope Benedict XVI has instructed Pelose in "Pro-Life 101", and trusting that Pelosi might still be somewhat "intellectually honest," in her "exhaustive study" about Church teachings on LIFE, I invite her to read Chapter 2.2 of the "DIDACHE", (the teachings of the 12 Apostles given to them by Jesus and published about 50 A.D., which states) "...thou shalt not murder a child by abortion nor kill them when born..."
Published by: Maryanne Leonard
Westlake Village, CA, USA 02/19/2009 10:51 PM EST
Our wonderful Pope has respectfully rebuked the shameless Nancy Pelosi, whose spin on the meeting is quite transparent. She is not willing to admit the error of her views and her previous public misstatement of the Church's position on abortion. She is a politician, and not a Catholic, but is using her "Catholicism" as a political pherome to attract support from those who do not keep on top of the news. I am in favor of bishops denying her communion.
Published by: Keitho
Crockett, CA, USA 02/19/2009 06:56 PM EST
I hope many will join in prayers of thanksgiving for our Holy Father and prayers for the Speaker that she seek the truth.She is, afterall, the third highest political leader in the United States. It seems to me there is a bit of a spin on the Vatican's press release.
Published by: Dan
Santa Fe/NM/US 02/19/2009 05:54 PM EST
Greenmoira---I'm not as concerned about her 'thinking' as I am about her action. As a US politician she public supports and promotes murder of innocent children---what would you call that action? However I did speak out of emotion in calling Ms. Pelosi 'evil' as I dont know her soul---just her defiant actions.
Published by: frank
lakeland, fl usa 02/19/2009 05:45 PM EST
First separate the sin from the sinner.love the sinner, hate the sin.
The sin is overwhelming the lust for power and position. She and the others mentioned by Weigel have truly been captured by the devil.
Published by: Dan
Santa Fe/NM/US 02/19/2009 05:35 PM EST
Patrick--maybe the Church is so weak in America today because everyone who public defies The Holy Father gets a free pass. I'm no Zelot, but I do believe we must confront evil when we see it not give it a pass. Please pray for lost souls as that may be your gift.
Published by: Tim McCarthy
The People's Reublic of Chicago 02/19/2009 04:29 PM EST
Since she doesn't appear to undestand the magnitude of her error, it should be time for bell, book, and candle. It would draw the line for all the Catholic politicians, and the half of the USCCB that vote for these abortionists.
Published by: Russ Craigmile
Alexandria, MN USA 02/19/2009 04:17 PM EST
Most thoughtful comments above. The bottom line is you cannot call yourself a Christian and be pro abortion. Conversion only happens through His Grace. Let's continue to pray for our brothers and sisters and build a culture of life.
Published by: Paul Brocato
Sacramento, CA, USA 02/19/2009 04:11 PM EST
Some of you are very confused as to what we need to be praying for and what steps the Church needs to take in order to assure proper consequences in a society that seems to have none. Sure we must pray for Pelosi's "conversion" but only after she suffers a penalty of excommunication. From Cardinal Ratzinger's own letter on the ability to receive communion (2004), please read and educate yourself on the consequences of speaking on these grave matters:

2. The Church teaches that abortion or euthanasia is a grave sin. The Encyclical Letter Evangelium vitae, with reference to judicial decisions or civil laws that authorise or promote abortion or euthanasia, states that there is a "grave and clear obligation to oppose them by conscientious objection. [...] In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to ‘take part in a propoganda campaign in favour of such a law or vote for it’" (no. 73). Christians have a "grave obligation of conscience not to cooperate formally in practices which, even if permitted by civil legislation, are contrary to God’s law. Indeed, from the moral standpoint, it is never licit to cooperate formally in evil. [...] This cooperation can never be justified either by invoking respect for the freedom of others or by appealing to the fact that civil law permits it or requires it" (no. 74).
Published by: Rose
Salt Lake City, UT 02/19/2009 04:02 PM EST
Some of you are being a little hard on Dan from NM. Evil comes in many shapes and forms, including ideas. Some of you are also correct in that none of us knows the state of Nancy Pelosi's soul. All we can judge a person by are their actions, and for the last several years her actions have been entirely self-serving, and in the case of promoting abortion, yes, evil. Someone does need to pray for her soul, as well as the rest of our souls. Finally, it's kind of a cheap shot to point out an error in a persons comments. All of us have made stoopid (sic) mistakes on occasion!
Published by: martin
lincoln/nebraska/usa 02/19/2009 03:52 PM EST
she is evil in the sense that she is causing serious scandal in this country by leading others into sin, but you have to feel sorry and pray for her conversion because if she only truly knew what she was doing, i can bet that she would be on her knees asking for forgiveness... same with every other cafeteria catholic.

-Francis Xavier T, just to let you know, excomunication is not (T)radition but it is (t)radition. meaning that its not dogma but just one of our traditions (notice the size difference in the t's). so excommunication is just a means of saying that you are not in the communion of the catholic church so you can not take part in our sacraments. you wouldn't find it in the gospels because it essentially wasn't started by Christ.

so in other words, its always been known that if you don't follow the dogmas then you can't call yourself catholic or take part in the sacraments, so, excommunication is just a formality you could say, or the making public of something that has already happened internally in a person.
Published by: Bill Sr.
Jacksonville, FL 02/19/2009 02:23 PM EST
We have witnessed publicly the boldness of our many catholic politicians piously strolling to communion who have and continue to vote in favor of abortion, welfare for multiple “fatherless” babies to the same woman, public funds for abortions in other countries, embryonic stem sell research, promotion of sex education that includes acceptance of homosexual marriage in public schools, and denial of vouchers for minorities who long for schooling which will offer their children a better education than the public schools to which they are forced into.
What does this speak to the average Catholic? I'll tell you.
It says the church’s hierarchy often feel the pressure to endure these elitist in government, entertainment, education, and the media at the risk of false favor or social acceptance regardless of their openly disregard for church teaching. Is it any wonder there is so little reverence before the Eucharist in our houses of worship today?
Think of the thousands of faithful who have left the church or been made to feel unworthy due to divorce or a broken marriage. These poor souls either don’t attend mass or sit in the back of church and leave at communion time because they feel God no longer approves of them and they don’t have the “funds” or “entitlements” at their disposal to remedy their situation. These are some the poor and humble Christ spoke of and desires to come to him.
Pray our spiritual leaders are as “accommodating” to these as to pandering politicians
Published by: Jacqueline
Florham Park, NJ 02/19/2009 01:10 PM EST
How many times must Queen Pelosi get the message about her fantasy with regards to the teachings of the Catholic Church. Here is a questionably bright woman who went to a Catholic college, but pretends that she is knowledgable about her faith. There is more than just her faith that she is not knowledgable about. I will rejoice when the Pope and the silent American Bishops finally wake up to her finagling the truth to promote her political agenda that is serving to confuse Catholics around the world and ex-communicate her along with Biden and all of the other democratic so called Catholics. This should have been done years ago, church!
Published by: greenmoira
Maple Hill, KS 02/19/2009 11:59 AM EST
Please don't label Nancy Pelosi as truly evil. That presupposes you know the complete condition of her soul and her intention. What is needed is prayer asking Our Lord Jesus Christ to give all abortion supporters the grace to turn from their current thinking and return to the teachings and practice of the Church.
Published by: Francis Xavier T
Washington, D.C 02/19/2009 11:02 AM EST
There is no mention of excommunication in all of the four Holy Gospels, only the stories how Lord Jesus converted sinners. This "official" meeting is a confirmation of our faith that the Holy Gospel is alive and well in our daily life. I hope Madame Nancy Pelosi will think of Pope Benedict XVI's words every day until she fully understand the truth. Madame Pelosi, don't be afraid to tell the truth. Abortion is an act of murder, not just killing. Take a look at Jeremiah 1:5, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I dedicated you, a prophet to the nations I appointed you." Do you know now when life begins? Law makers shall not put themselves above the Almighty God's laws.
Published by: Mary
Brookline, NH USA 02/19/2009 10:56 AM EST
I commend Pope Benedict for being so patient as I don't think I would have been. These Catholic politicians have scandalized so many Catholics here. I am praying for their conversions I would not want the weight of those deaths due to abortion world wide to be on my conscience when i met my God.
Published by: Linus
Kansas City,Ks, U.S.A. 02/19/2009 07:47 AM EST
Well,we are tempted to be outraged and angry about these people. But we must keep in mind that these people grew up in and were educated during the period of dessent of the 60's,70', and 80's and some of them had a spoiled and pampered upbringing. The members of the Church never have and do not today speak with a unified voice and unfortunately many of the trouble makers are in a position to influence adversely how people think and judge.
Published by: Anne
Phila., PA USA 02/19/2009 07:40 AM EST
We all need to pray for Nancy Pelosi, if she is the ardent catholic she so describes then let's pray she "listens" to our Lord.
Published by: Jerry T. Lee
Hamilton, Ohio, USA 02/19/2009 07:01 AM EST
They have now been forwarned. He has now removed all excuses that "Gee God... I didnt know that" at the judgement day.
Published by: George
Westwood/NJ/USA 02/19/2009 01:59 AM EST
Speaker of the House Pelosi has been a staucnh "Liberal" for as long as I can remember. Her values are based on "San Francisco" style politics. I wonder if she realizes the danger she places her and others immortal souls into by supporting/ spear-heading such outlandish liberal politics that grow more ever more liberal as time passes.
Published by: Bob
USA 02/19/2009 12:23 AM EST
It is amazing how these defamerrs of the truth want to be called Catholic. If they so dispise the churches teacings why not be honest enough to recognize the fact that they have placed themselves outside the church. Praying for these people is about all that is left to do. Without divine intervention they will not change. If the words of the Holy Father will not sway them, then what?
Published by: Grace
Milwaukee 02/18/2009 11:56 PM EST
"The women [sic] is truely [sic] evil"?!She is clearly confused, but how does that make her entire existence evil? What about the innate dignity of every human life? I hope it isn't you who sits in judgement on the last day.
Published by: Larry
Fort Worth, Texas 02/18/2009 11:49 PM EST
This sentiment from Catholics in the U.S. is becoming epidemic.

I have seen it in the extreme "Just Faith" programs which assert strong Liberal agendas, yet turn a deaf ear to abortion and homosexuality.

Church leaders need to take a firm stance on these issues before it's too late.
Published by: Jose E. Mattei
Phoenix/AZ/USA 02/18/2009 11:23 PM EST
Thank you your Holliness for been a great example of faith and dignity as well as morals. Showing the death culture that we will defend does that are so small they cannot defend themselves (the unborn).
Published by: James
Tampa/FL/USA 02/18/2009 10:14 PM EST
At this time, the ball is back in Mrs. Pelosi's court. The actions she takes now after having been strongly admonished by the vicar of Christ Pope Benedict the XVI should determine her status as a Catholic. If she continues on the path that she has set out on over these past years in complete support of abortion, than she must be formally excommunicated for the sake of the body of Christ and for her own sake. Please Lord, guide her heart gently home and help us to save more souls through the strength and courage of your Bishops who have struggled greatly of late to fearlessly preach the gospel. Grant the Bishops the courage and wisdom to do what they must. Amen!
Published by: Manfred der Kirchenfreund
Vancouver BC CANADA 02/18/2009 09:56 PM EST
It pains me greatly to see Mrs. Pelosi et al put their eternal souls in danger of damnation for something as evil as the murder of little girls and boys, also known eupemistically as abortion. "Our Father Who art in Heaven...", plus one Haily Mary and one St. Michael the Archangel prayer.
Published by: Vern
Texas, USA 02/18/2009 09:47 PM EST
I have never been prouder to be a Roman Catholic than right now! Thanks be to God for His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI! Thanks God he admonished her for her views on abortion! What a blessing to have such a great leader as Pope Benedict XVI!!!!!
Published by: Patrick
Edmonton, AB, Canada 02/18/2009 08:47 PM EST
Pray for her instead of writing "the woman is truly evil". That was never said.
Published by: Bert Brocato
Monument, Co. 80132 02/18/2009 07:57 PM EST
To stand before the Holy Father and be told that"ones' status as a Catholic is in serious difficulty", most of us would be on our knees asking for forgiveness. Not "over my head" Pelosi. Astounding!!!!
Published by: Jan England
Sacramento, CA 02/18/2009 07:56 PM EST
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Thank you Heavenly Father for our Holy Father Pope Benedict. May his love and strong guiding words cause a deep desire for conversion in Ms. Pelosi's heart and all those who veer from Your Truth, leading others astray. May we all, especially during Lent, convert more radically to the message of Christ - that we be given and embrace the grace to love the Lord,our God, with all our heart, with all our being, with all our strength, and with all our mind, and our neighbor (from conception through eternity)as ourself. cf Luke 10:27
Published by: Brent
San Francisco, CA 02/18/2009 07:46 PM EST
From the Pelosi press release it sounds like they were swapping old family photographs over afternoon tea. Always the politician, she doesn't mention the one topic that anyone who has been following her and the Church know they must have discussed. I guess she knows that here constituents will probably read her press release but never read the Vatican's release.
Published by: Dan
Santa Fe/NM/US 02/18/2009 06:04 PM EST
Rate: Very Good
OK there we have it---the women is truely evil. Please Lord correct us in ways that will truely bring us back to you in word and deed. If we who defy you will not turn from our evil ways then please separate this chaff from the wheat and give the righteous peace from these evildoers who profane your name.
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