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Vatican City, Apr 10, 2006 / 12:00 am (CNA).- A source at the Vatican has told CNA that during Holy Week Pope Benedict XVI may grant universal permission to use the Missal of St. Pius V, the liturgical rite used in the Church before Vatican II.

According to the source, the announcement could come “between Holy Thursday and Easter Sunday,” but the exact day has not yet been set. Nevertheless, the source said the decision has already been made by the Holy Father and that it’s “only a matter of time” before it is publicly announced.

“A minor official gesture by the Holy Father would be enough to allow the Mass according to the 1962 Missal to celebrated by whoever desires to do so, thus reiterating that this rite is still valid today simply because it was not abolished,” the source told CNA.

The announcement would be in the context of “the reform of the reform” that Pope Benedict XVI is promoting, which includes norms and principles that will be made public in the upcoming post-synod Apostolic Exhortation on the Eucharist.

At the same time, such a gesture by the Pope could contribute to ending the schism with the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X, founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1988.

On Saturday, Pope Benedict XVI named three new members to the Ecclesia Dei Commission, created by Pope John Paul II in order to reach out to the Lefebvrists. They are Cardinal William Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Jean-Pierre Richard, Archbishop of Bordeaux of president of the Bishops’ Conference of France, and Cardinal Antonio Cañizares Llovera of Toledo, Spain.

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Published by: Jim
Shrewsbury, PA 03/10/2007 12:59 PM EST

I think that all the "liberals" and the bishops of the world have forgotten one thing. Vatican II was a "pastoral" council NOT a "dogmatic" council. Simply meaning that all proclamations and edicts of the Councul of Trent are still in effect. Including that Latin is still the official language of the Roman Catholic Church. In addition, most Catholics lack the knowledge that there are millions of Eastern Catholics who have retained their ancient rites and traditions, unchanged, for almost 2000 years. There are 18 other "rites" in the Catholic Church, where people have never said Mass in either Latin or the Novus Ordo. Why not let those have the Tridentine Mass with equal standing of those of the Eastern Rites???

Published by: Craig
Kansas CIty, MO 05/05/2006 06:08 PM EST

I have noticed that people are heaping the problems of irreverance for the Church at the hands of the Liturgy, this is simply foolish. Issues of irreverance, moral decay, loss of tradition are not the fault of the iturgy, but of people not being educated and informed. Being a convert I can tell you that when I attend a Tridentine Mass, a Litugy both beautiful and inspiring, I do not feel like I worshiped anything but the back of a priest. I go to Mass to worship not to watch and be confused. God did not withold Himself from everyone, why is chould the Mass?

Personally I find the SSPX constant insults and attacks disrepectful and irreverant in themselves. Our Liturgy is not what defines us as a Church, who we are is so much more than the Mass, while the Eucharist is central to our identity, it is not our identity.

I pray that everyone will be accomadated with love and respect, but society and the world cannot be healed just by returning to Latin, remember, at one time Latin was the vulgar.

Published by: Andrew
Brooklyn, NY 04/20/2006 12:47 PM EST

"Allowing" that which should never have been forbidden by Pope Paul VI is too little to late. Now that the damage has been done doctrinally, morally and liturgically, Rome is considering "allowing" the traditional rite of the Roman Church -- something they should have done 40 years ago! The people that really hurt are now in the graves -- very sad. How corrupt the Church has become since the "springtime" of Vatican II.

Published by: Bob Glassmeyer
Hamilton, Ohio, USA 04/19/2006 06:29 PM EST

It's my hope that Pope Benedict allows more use of the 1962 Missal, and, in addition, that the Missal of 1970 is used more reverently, so that Mass feels more like Mass and not like a kaffee klatsch. I hope the Olive Branch is passed in our own church, and that there is mutual understanding of the missals of 1962 and 1970.

Published by: Paul D.
Front Royal, Virginias 04/19/2006 12:21 PM EST

Holy Mother Church has always taught that the Catholic Faith rests upon the pillars of Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. This is restated for our time in the Catechiam of the Catholic Church. It surely appears bizarre (or worse) that within the last 40+ years those who do hold fast to Sacred Tradition in Liturgy, practice[ and teachings are regarded by the majority (it would appear) as a small off-center group called "Traditionalists", and regarded with condescension and even contempt - sometimes even with pity.

Published by: SRP
New York 04/19/2006 08:22 AM EST

this would truly be a blessing. let's get back to the Mass for all time. Jube, Domine, benedicere.

Published by: Jack G. Leone
Wantagh, NY 04/18/2006 01:48 PM EST

I have been praying and do hope the Latin Mass does come back. The church needs some kind of order, "BACK TO BASICS".

When I was growing up there was order and reverence. Today it seems going to church is like going to a neighborhood meeting.Everyon is talking and the dress code is atrocious.

The church seems to be leaning toward a Protestant church and do not know why.

Also, I do not understand why the Tabernacle is not under the cross at the alter and is placed somewhere on the side of the altar.

I've been to a few churches and it seems everyone does smomething different. This is why the church is dissary.

I am praying and hope that the Pope will institute the return of the Latin Mass.

I do hope we see the change real soon

PRAY ! PRAY ! PARY.

Published by: Jack Leone
Wantagh, New York, USA 04/17/2006 01:54 PM EST

I hope that the pope does this. I'm not in rebellion about Vatican II because that would be schismatic, but let's face it, the Council was "aided" by Protestants and a rabbi. Why? Why should the Catholic Church, which is the sure instrument of salvation be aided other religions? I can't understand that. Why nuns don't wear their habit is unreal. Why are you there, then! The Church is in such disarray. The old ways and traditions keep order. Now, there is disorder. You never see saints in the churches or and reverance. Everybody's talking before mass. Nobody prays the rosary or is quiet. I've been told that children won't understand Latin today. Do they understand the mass when they are given coloring books by the parish and color during mass? How do they understand it in English for that matter? St. Paul tells us this. Let us all rest assure, it will return soon. Everybody should bear in mind that there is an OPTION given, so you know what that will mean. We may not see the mass said in Latin as long as there is an option. Some even dread the notion that it's all coming back and are pretty comfortable the way things are now. Jesus, save us.

Published by: Mina
Ontario, Canada 04/17/2006 05:58 AM EST

I badly want the traditional Roman Catholic Church back. I've never felt right during any of the Vatican II Liturgy. There's so much irreverence, chapel veils are hardly used, the Eucharist was shown by our Lord via miracles that it must go on the tongue not in the hand, and I weep with Mary. There's nuns out there that don't wear the veil and there's even nuns that don't wear the habit! The women's ordination campaign is an awful consequence of modernist thinking. I'll keep praying for the Old Rome to "come home". The New Rome seems...Protestant. I'm not trying to hurt anyone nor call people names and other harshness. I'm just explaining that I'd rather have the Old Mass back and I'm never comfortable during the New Mass. Thank you and God bless.

Published by: Julie
Long Island 04/12/2006 05:05 PM EST

We wait in confidence for this wonderful news
to be announced, with trust in God that He will
lead His Church back to her traditions.

Paraphrasing Belloc, we
proclaim:
"She is our Catholic Tradition and all our past. She is returning.
Andiamo."

Published by: Catholicity
Indiana 04/12/2006 02:33 PM EST

Virginia, Virginia...God understands Latin, too. And let me ask you this: The fixed parts of the Mass are the same from day to day, Sunday to Sunday. You really want to tell me you can't learn just that much Latin? Not even a Pater or a Credo? Like you don't know what they're saying already :)

Published by: Fr. Kelly
Nebraska City / Nebraska / USA 04/12/2006 11:37 AM EST

Let us encourage one another. The short answers to the questions posed in the previous post are, Yes, yes, and Yes. God does, indeed understand all languages, even English, but Latin is our native language as Catholics. Our Holy Father has repeatedly asked us to make the effort to learn our own language. Let us all pray together for a generous and genuine effort on the part of all to embrace this reasonable request of our Holy Father. I am willing to do my part to help anyone who asks to learn.

Published by: Jason
Louisiana 04/12/2006 09:34 AM EST

PLEASE POST THIS; PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH. THANK YOU!

According to QUO PRIMUM of Pope Saint Pius V of 1570, every Catholic priest has permission "in perpetuity", "without any scruple of conscience or fear of incurring any penalty, judgment or censure", to pray the Traditional Latin Mass, and he cannot be forced to pray any other Mass.
That is why Pope Paul VI did NOT command the use of the Novus Ordo Missae. In his MISSALE ROMANUM of 1969, he only "WISHED to give force of law" and "HOPED it would be received by the faithful." Most of the bishops abused their authority and took advantage of the obedience of good Catholics by falsely commanding the new mass and falsely "forbidding" the canonized Catholic Mass.
The new mass was invented with the intent of "updating the Roman Missal for the present-day mentality." That is not Catholic thinking. That is compromising with the world, the opposite of what Christ did. The Traditional Latin Mass IS the official Mass of the Catholic Church, now and forever! No pope can change that; only Christ can.
Some falsely say that Pope Saint Pius V issued a new Mass, but he simply unified and confirmed the already-existing liturgy. Many novelties and innovations had crept into the Mass in many places because of the Protestant revolt, so Pope Saint Pius V canonized the Mass in order to protect it so that it would be the same everywhere for all time. That is a big part of the reason he was declared a saint.

Published by: Pavia Milne
Queensland , Australia 04/11/2006 11:56 PM EST

Praise God for our Pope !
Thanks for this wonderful
gift on Easter 2006. Pray,
pray, pray!

Published by: Virginia
Otto, NC USA 04/11/2006 11:44 PM EST

I will add my two cents even though there will be a hue and cry for my head. Does anyone speak Latin? And does anyone therefore understand what is being said during a Latin mass? Now I'm not talking about using a translation while the priest is speaking. I'm saying, do you understand Latin? I believe that the answer is no! Let's face it. It takes a long time to learn a language and even longer to think in that second language. I speak English and I think in English, therefore I pray in English. God understands all languages, even English. Please do not take my English Mass away.

Published by: pauline o'callaghan
mississauga, ontario, canada 04/11/2006 10:26 PM EST

I hope that as well as the granting the right to use the Tridentine Rite, the prayer to St. Michael, said after Mass, will be re-introduced as well. We need his help!

Published by: Michele
MD. 04/11/2006 08:46 PM EST

Thank you for your comments, Fr. Justin. I agree with everything you wrote and understand this problem with the bishops. Let us fervently pray that this comes to pass, and very soon. I am so tired of hearing the Protestant hymns at Mass, the applause, the immodest dress, the casual conversations before, during and after Mass (the Church is a place to pray to Jesus in the tabernacle after all) and the general irreverence. God bless Pope Benedict and let us all pray for him and our Catholic Church.

Published by: PHILLIP GARCIA
CONCORD/ CA./ U.S.A 04/11/2006 04:55 PM EST

I GAVE UP ON NOVUS ORDO MESS AND STARTED GOING TO THE TRIDETINE MASS AND I SURE LOVE IT I FEEL LIKE I AM HOME AGAIN.

Published by: Lucia
Guam, USA 04/11/2006 04:29 PM EST

A prayer answered!
God bless our Holy Father Pope Benedict!!

Published by: greg
fortwayne,indiana 04/11/2006 03:00 PM EST

If it happens,the often harsh criticism of traditionalists might stop. Prayers answered! Thank-God!

Published by: John Francis
Elgin, Ill 60123 04/11/2006 02:43 PM EST

Allowing life to carry on its own pace and stop bickering about what mass shuld be said. Let everyone in-- that is the true meaning of the word "Catholic." Wy deny someone something that bring them joy, peace or love--too many Catholics want it their own way or the highway. Lighten up

Published by: Father Justin
Texas, Usa 04/11/2006 01:13 PM EST

I am a Catholic priest who, like many other priests I know, have been celebrating the Traditional Latin Mass in private for many years. If our Holy Father does grant the indult for all priests to celebrate the Holy and ancient "Mass of all times" publicly, my only concern is that he does not allow the local bishops to "regulate" its celebration. Restrictions such as where, when, and how often, would defeat the purpose of the a universal indult. It is no secret, that most of the bishops had hoped and prayed that this Holy Mass would die. We are all well aware, that most of the United States bishops cannot be trusted to do what Rome wants.

Published by: Connie
USA 04/11/2006 01:04 PM EST

THANK GOD! THIS IS A MIRACLE, AT LAST THE HOLY SACRIFICE OF THE MASS AS IT USED TO BE WITH ALL OF THE SACREDNESS, TRADITION AND BEAUTY.

Published by: Ben
Plymouth, MN USA 04/11/2006 12:22 PM EST

Now the tests of charity begin. Will the majority (Novus Ordo Catholics) accept the old mass being said in their parish, or will they raise such a hew and cry that pastors will be intimidated into forbidding its use in their parishes?
And on the other side: will the "Trad"s insist that hosts consecrated at a Novus Ordo mass not be used during a mass celebrated according to the 1962 missal or other such silliness?
Allowing the old mass is only the beginning of a long hard road: mending a schism will be a lot of work, and it will take a lot of love and humility on all sides. But be assured that mending the body of Christ is His will so he will supply the grace if we will just receive it.

Published by: dorothy Jennings
Lutcher, LA, USA 04/11/2006 12:04 PM EST

I am really happy to hear sbout this.

Published by: ART
SOCORRO,NM USA 04/11/2006 11:26 AM EST

THANK YOU LORD
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR
FOR THIS MASS

Published by: Margaret A Wilson
Warrem, Pennsylvania, USA 04/11/2006 10:24 AM EST

Praise God!

Published by: Claire Marcus
California, USA 04/11/2006 10:18 AM EST

I hope that allowing the Tridentine Mass anywhere by any priest will stop some of the ugly condemnations of those who prefer that rite to the Novus Ordo. Many of them have not done their cause any good by constant complaints, demonstrations, hateful comments, indeed, condemnations of thousands of priests and hundreds of bishops who offer the Novus Ordo in a sacred and solemn manner. Their uncharitableness is a scandal to those of us who prefer the Mass in our own language.

Published by: I. A. Dei
USA 04/11/2006 09:55 AM EST

Consider this. The new rite has, in effect, protected the old rite from liturgical abuse. Had there not been a new rite, imagine what kinds of antics would have been foisted on the traditional rite by the ones who now do it in the new. With the traditional rite effectively set aside for the past 40+ years, it has been protected by being forgotten, except by those who love it. But what will happen with a universal indult? Will those who don't have a clue about how to offer the traditional rite don birettas backwards and start "experimenting"? I hope not. But, as it has been said, beware of what you pray for; you just might get it.

Published by: Jerry
Orange Park 04/11/2006 09:29 AM EST

Thank God for this beautiful Mass.It will help Catholics to acheive a greater Holiness.

Published by: ben joyce
cataumet Ma. usa 04/11/2006 09:18 AM EST

It appears that what is being opened is the opposite of "Pandora's box". It appears God allowed the good to be taken away and instead we were given a valid, but masonic facsimile of the real thing. It was stated in Latin Mass Magazine that the head designer of the Novus Ordo, Annibale Bugnini, that his "allegence to Freemasonry was prooven."

When the Old Mass with it's inherent truth and Grace comes out, the Devil will be on the run but I'm afraid the forces of Hell will launch one last huge assault on the Church and take many souls to perdition.

Now the fight is really on. The devil won't take this sitting down.

Published by: Donna
USA 04/11/2006 08:58 AM EST

A prayer answered !

Published by: Marguerite
Penna. 04/11/2006 08:49 AM EST

I pray to God that this is true. I long for the "old Mass" Try as I might the Novus Ordo does not cut it for me.

Published by: Jo-Anne
Ontario Canada 04/11/2006 08:45 AM EST

We the "Lefebvrists" appreciate the efforts our Holy Father is making by granting universal permission for priests to say the Mass of all times. We pray, however for the three Roman prelates recently appointed to the Ecclesia Dei Commission that they may be enlightened by the Holy Spirit to help them understand that the Mass is not our only concern. We will not buy into the novelties of Vatican II, ecuminism, religious liberty, seperation of Church and state and much more and we wish defend our right to criticize all these novelties. Christ founded the Roman Catholic Church and sincere people searching for the true Church teaching understand that there is no salvation outside the Church. Media promoting reconsciliation on the mere fact that the Holy Father allowing the Latin Mass are doing a great diservice to our Holy Church. It is merely a step albeit an important one in the right direction.

Published by: Nikki Lehnhardt
Jackson, Ms USA 04/11/2006 08:09 AM EST

I read this article and had an overwhelming feeling that finally I would be able to come home. For me, the Latin Mass is home. This is wonderful news.

Published by: Scott
NY,NY 04/11/2006 07:56 AM EST

Well this would be a fantastic development for the Church,albeit 36 years overdue.I feel the real reason so many in the Vatican have opposed this indult is they feel that once people attend the Tridentine Mass in all it's splendor they will prefer it to the Novus Ordo.Let us all pray that His Holiness Pope Benedict grants full freedom to the Tridentine Rite and that he reforms the Novus Ordo in a way that will restore reverence and mystery to the liturgy.

Published by: Jacob
USA 04/11/2006 06:53 AM EST

This ia absolutely wonderful news. Our Holy Father is nothing short of amazing. A fellow Bavarian at that!

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