A: “It frequently happens that a person becomes possessed after entering a spiritualist or satanic cult. There are few of these in my care, because only repentant satanists ask for exorcism. But I think there are many more among them. It is easy to enter the satanic cults, but extremely difficult to get out. In some cases, one risks one’s life.”
Q: And what bond do the satanists have with the devil?
A: “There are two kinds: those who worship the devil, celebrate satanic masses, and have a priesthood and a hierarchy; and those who do not believe at all in the personal existence of Satan, but give themselves over to acts that are filthy and against nature. This other satanism is the more dangerous.”
A: John Paul II has said exorcisms for three possessed persons. Have they been released?
A: “The third, no. I have had her in my care since 1998, and hers is a truly sad case.”
Q: Apart from the pope, what is belief in the devil like in the Church?
A: “Very diminished. And the devil is extremely content with that, because that frees his hand to do his work. The Church has gone from one extreme to the other. To correct the folly of witch hunting, who instead of being exorcised were burned, it has erased everything, both devil and exorcism. The result is that entire Catholic regions no longer have even a single exorcist: Spain, Portugal, Germany, Austria, Switzerland. I admire the Italian bishops. They don’t understand anything about it, but at least they appoint exorcists. Last year there was a meeting of the Italian exorcists: there were one hundred and seventy of us.”
(Editor’s Note: in the case of Spain there is in fact a famous exorcist, Fr. Fortea, some accounts of whose exorcisms are well known in Spain.)
Q: Explain better; in what sense do the bishops not understand anything about this?
A: “Because they, like all priests, have studied at the seminary. And for a long time, the seminary has taught nothing about angels or demons, nothing about exorcisms, nothing about the sins against the first commandment, ‘You shall have no God but me’: magic, spiritism, and satanism.”
Q: And the Vatican curia?
(Story continues below)
Subscribe to our daily newsletter
A: “The same incompetence. They approved a new ritual which, for the exorcists, is a disaster. It forbids acting in the case of a curse, when this is the source of 90 percent of the cases of possession. It forbids acting if there is no previous certainty of diabolical action, when this can be understood only in the course of action. Fortunately, the old ritual is still valid. I use that one; otherwise, I would have to quit.”