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Weigel and Kmiec lock horns over Notre Dame at the Chicago Tribune
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.- On Sunday, the Chicago Tribune invited the Catholic scholars Professor Douglas W. Kmiec and George Weigel to express their opposing views about the controversial invitation of President Barack Obama to give the commencement address at the Catholic University of Notre Dame. In his column “Notre Dame's common ground,” Professor Douglas Kmiec, who was a dean at the university, and who defended Obama as the best option for Catholic voters in the recent election, writes that regarding the selection of commencement speakers “it's depressing to think Mother Teresa is deceased.” “The controversy over President Barack Obama at Notre Dame –he says- is different. Even as unprecedented numbers of Catholics voted for the president… there's the rub, the Catholic Church is the foremost defender of unborn life, and properly, uncompromising about it. Obama is more pragmatic, accommodating other religious and scientific views that see the origin point of life differently.” According to Kmiec, Notre Dame's president, Fr. John Jenkins, has “made it plain that the commencement invitation represents no disregard of the church's commitment to life. And while it is unfortunate the local prelate, Bishop John D'Arcy, has chosen to be elsewhere rather than pray with Obama and engage him in conversation, the significance of the bishop's absence and Jenkins' candor is surely not lost on our intellectually gifted 44th president.” Kmiec then asks: “So with all this reservation and dissent, should Notre Dame regret Obama's acceptance? And in light of the commotion being stirred up by Obama's detractors, should Obama feel unwelcome?” “No, on both counts,” he responds. “Both Notre Dame and our new president are ‘fightin' Irish’ when it comes to working for social justice,” Kmiec argues, and mentions the administration's “early victories” extending health insurance to children, rectifying imbalances in a tax code neglectful of the working man, and persuading Congress to allocate abundant resources for educational reform. Obama’s presence would also be the best way to honor Rev. Theodore M. Hesburgh, 92, Notre Dame's president emeritus, says Kmiec. “Today, Father Ted has been rendered nearly blind by illness, but he, like Obama, can see clearly two great goods missed by the short-sighted critics of the invitation: first, that while on Inauguration Day, all Americans rejoiced in the election of the first African-American to the presidency, today we are with him or against him irrespective of race, and second, that despite our occasionally profound disagreement, if we are truly to learn to live with one another, we will need to find a way, as Obama has remarked, ‘that reconciles the beliefs of each with the good of all.’” “Which is precisely why the University of Notre Dame, which claims to be America's premier Catholic institution of higher learning, made an egregious error in inviting President Barack Obama,” he writes. According to Weigel, since Inauguration Day, “Obama has made several judgment calls that render Notre Dame's invitation little short of incomprehensible,” among them, to put the taxpayers of the United States back into the business of paying for abortions abroad, expanding federal funding for embryo-destructive stem-cell research and defending that position “in a speech that was a parody of intellectually serious moral reasoning.” Besides all of this, he says, “the Obama administration threatens to reverse federal regulations that protect the conscience rights of Catholic and other pro-life health-care professionals.” “How any of this, much less the sum total of it, constitutes a set of decisions Notre Dame believes worth emulating is not, to put it gently, easy to understand,” Weigel writes. Weigel also points out that “the Catholic defense of the right to life is not a matter of arcane or esoteric Catholic doctrine: You don't have to believe in the primacy of the pope, in seven sacraments, in Mary's assumption into heaven, in the divine and human natures of Christ—you don't even have to believe in God—to take seriously the Catholic claim that innocent human life has an inalienable dignity and value that demands the protection of the laws.” That conviction, the EPPC senior fellow argues, is the one that “once led men like Notre Dame's former president, Father Theodore M. Hesburgh, to work for decades on behalf of civil rights for African-Americans. That claim and that work made it possible for Obama to be elected president of the United States.” “And, in a bitter irony, it is precisely that claim that is contradicted, indeed trampled on, by the Obama administration's policies on a whole host of life issues.” “If Notre Dame had invited the president to address a symposium on the grave moral issues the president himself acknowledges being at the heart of the biotech revolution, that, too, would have been a public service. For that is one of the things great universities do: They provide a public forum for serious argument about serious matters touching the common good,” Weigel asserts. “But, to repeat, a commencement is not a debate, nor is a commencement address the beginning of some sort of ongoing dialogue, as Notre Dame officials have tried to suggest. A commencement address and the degree that typically accompanies it confer an honor. That honor is, or should be, a statement of the university's convictions.” “Notre Dame's leaders invite the conclusion that their convictions on the great civil rights issues of our time are not those that once led Hesburgh to stand with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and proclaim an America in which all God's children are equal before the law. And that is very bad news for all Americans,” he concludes. Subscriber comments:
Published by: Charles
tiburon ca 04/19/2009 02:36 PM EST
Kmeic must be a wannabe Hollywood screen writer, his hyperbole is just what the LaLa land crowd will be able to quote. All Americans rejoiced at the election of the first african american president? that is truly LaLa land stuff.
Published by: Jer
Wisconsin 04/17/2009 06:38 PM EST
I am amazed at all the narrow-minded, short sighted Catholics who wrote here. When the Vatican was asked about this contro-versy it simply said:
"No comment."
Published by: JakeD
San Diego, CA 04/09/2009 03:13 PM EST
Kmiec was Dean of the law school at The Catholic University of America (2001-2003), not Notre Dame. Kmiec was a member of the faculty at Notre Dame Law School from 1980 to 1999. At Notre Dame, he directed the Thomas White Center on Law & Government and founded the Notre Dame Journal of Law, Ethics & Public Policy.
He is mistaken in his support of Obama.
Published by: Catherine Masak
Lindenhurst 04/07/2009 05:47 PM EST
God is eternal. Truth is Eternal. All else is trash and lost in the sands of time.
Published by: austine
Memphis TN 04/07/2009 01:17 PM EST
Pray for Kmiec that he has enough moral courage and humility to see the mistake he made in suppporting Obama. He is descending into rationalizations when most Obama republicans have admitted their mistake.
Published by: Mary T. Tanner
Iowa City, Iowa 04/02/2009 10:03 PM EST
A Bishop out ranks a priest, so tell Fr. Jenkins he's out and so is Obama!
Published by: Bill Vinet
Kaneohe, HI, USA 04/01/2009 09:44 AM EST
Let us thank God for George Weigel. Douglas Kmiec is "more to be pitied than censored."
Published by: A. Regan
Mishawaka 04/01/2009 07:28 AM EST
As we continue watching this debate, it's interesting that anyone not in favor of the president's going to Notre Dame is one of the following: bigoted, narrow minded, issue driven, unwilling to debate, short sighted, etc. Let it be! I'd rather be all of those AND true to Church teachings "in season and out." God bless Bishop D'Arcy!
Published by: James Scott
Ireland 04/01/2009 06:21 AM EST
Like me, here in Ireland, the whole world is watching this issue in ND. It will be another example of whether, or not, our Church is unified against this abomination i.e abortion and all pro-abortion influences.
As Archbishop Chaput said recently "We all need to stand up and be counted for our Faith"!
Published by: Richard R. Schroeck
Erie, PA, USA 03/31/2009 06:03 PM EST
It seems to me that this problem could be easily rectified if all the "practicing" Catholic students and alumni would simply stop their financial support. Obviously, Fr. Jenkins isn't going to change his decision, so just maybe when the funds stop flowing his hand will be forced.
Published by: bjcass
mooresville,nc 03/31/2009 03:44 PM EST
Kmiec is a classic illustration of many Catholic Liberals.They profess their support of the unborn and the overall culture of life.They than back-pedal and rationalize why social justice related issues trump the clear and obvious negatives of a pure, pro abortion political candidate.Their logic and thought processes are riddled with excuses to get them to one objective:Support for a political agenda that ignores or at least trivializes the Pro Life position of the Catholic community.It is intellectually dishonest.
Published by: Michael
Nashville, TN, USA 03/31/2009 02:25 PM EST
Why can't the bishop who serves as the superior to Fr. Jenkins simply reassign him to some other duty and remove him as president of ND? Can't the bishops simply stop this from happening, by their authority?
Published by: Joan L. Roccasalvo
Bronx, NY 03/31/2009 11:57 AM EST
What is to be done about the unwise, imprudent decision by Fr. Jenkins to invite President Obama to Notre Dame? This is the question facing him and the administration at Notre Dame between now and mid-May. All eyes are on Notre Dame!
Published by: Robert
New York 03/31/2009 11:31 AM EST
Weigel has reason, Kmiec has excuses. If Obama had any good sense, he should excuse himself from the commencement and the honorary degree being bestowed upon him as it would have been empty. I'm sure there's a host of other universities with the same mind as he has that are just dying to bestow upon him the honor which no self-respecting Catholic university ought to bestow upon a supporter of abortion as this president.
Published by: William J. Doslak
Lorain, Ohio 03/31/2009 11:16 AM EST
Remind Dean Kmiec That Mother Thresa refused to have her photo taken with Pres. Clinton because of his pro choice agenda.
Published by: Myles Keogh
Fort Riley Kansas 03/31/2009 10:18 AM EST
Kmiec is a fool. He knows deep down in his heart of hearts that he made a mistake supporting the country's new secular messiah but his arrogance now will not allow him to admit that Obama is proving to be everything that pro-life supporters described him. The more and more Obama continues with his anti-life, anti-God Crusade the more Kmiec will dig in his heels of support for the country's messiah. He is just too proud and arrogant to admit he is wrong no matter what the cost.
Published by: Tom
New York 03/31/2009 10:04 AM EST
Has Kmiec's bishop spoken out yet and/or adivsed Kmiec of his profund theological errors? It owuld seem appropriate.
Also, it is ironic that Kmiec, a lawyer, offers poor reasoning. Would he make the same analogy if Notre Dame bestowed an honorary degree on Saddam Hussein? Although Saddam authorized the killing of thousands (akin to our president authorizing the killing of thousands of unborn babies), he provided many social benefits (education, healthcare, etc.) to a great number of his supporters.
Published by: Mary Helen Colleli
Columbus/OH/USA 03/31/2009 09:31 AM EST
When abortion is the choice, someone dies. That can never be "good for all."
Published by: Milbo
Toms River, NJ USA 03/31/2009 09:17 AM EST
The Democrats refused to invite Archbishop Chaput to the Democratic Convention this summer. Why is a Catholic University inviting Obama and giving him an audience and an honorary degree?
Published by: Phil Ferguson
Boise, ID, USA 03/31/2009 09:06 AM EST
Obama is a defective CEO of Chrysler and GM (not knowing how to run a company). Notre Dame, eventually he will be a defective president of your alma mater and mandate, not discuss, how you will run your university. God fobid. Mark my words.
Remember, a gentleman (sic) from Austria was democratically elected chancellor of Germany in 1933. Notre Dame, Our Mother, must weep bitter tears now, much as she did at the execution of her Son. Now, her child is swallowing hemlock - with much glee and fanfare. Folks, Socrates took hemlock, but he was an honorable man and did it for an honorable reason. Notre Dame's decision, re: Obama, is honorable in the sense that a whore is an honorable virgin.
Published by: cathguy
USA 03/31/2009 09:01 AM EST
I cannot understand how Notre Dame is defending this position.
Doug Kmiec argued passionately for Obama and said he stood with the Church. Of course, when the Pope corrected Nancy Pelosi and by extension Obama and Kmiec, Kmiec didn't stand with the Holy Father, he criticized him and said he was acting in an inappropriate and overbearing way. Thus, Kmiec doesn't sound like a Catholic. He sounds like a protestant... and a liberal one at that.
Published by: Mack
Kirbyville, Texas 03/31/2009 08:47 AM EST
Our Lady -- Notre Dame -- Herself chooses life. Perhaps the school should re-name itself Herodia.
Published by: Mark Scamp
Pekin 03/31/2009 08:17 AM EST
It is because of men like Mr. Weigel that I am proud to be a new Catholic(Easter Vigil 2008). there are still way too many of those 'Im OK - You're OK' 'catholics' attempting to speak for the Church. New members are not coming Home to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church because of people like Kmiec, Dodd, Pelosi, Kennedy...They're coming in because of people like Mr. Weigel, Father Richard John Neuhaus, Dr. Scott Hahn and Fr. Corapi. Peace be with you and God Bless you Mr. Weigel.
Published by: John
IL 03/31/2009 08:02 AM EST
Kmiec is a Judas. He sold out, and we should stop listening to whatever he has to say. He stopped being Catholic a long time ago and needs now to stop pretending to be one.
Published by: cindy
Franklin, OH, USA 03/31/2009 07:26 AM EST
It's sad to see that the president of Notre Dame, and Mr. Kmiec have not accepted "the love of truth" and appear to have fallen prey to the deceptive one so that they may "believe the lie"
2 Thess 2:10-12
Published by: Mike Monohon
Royal Oak Michigan 03/30/2009 10:02 PM EST
Mother Teresa supports the practice of heroic virtue whereas the invitee supports the exact opposite as far as the pro-death stance he takes on the issue. There is only one true origin point of when life begins and that is superbly documented by the true scientific community in accordance with their peers. There are no intellectual gifts found within any pro-death decisions or so called rights stemming from bad law. What a shame the President wasn’t invited to help figure out how to reword bad law into good by showing enough forgiveness and mercy towards those lovely little creatures of God’s own doing – a true miracle of life that seems to be hidden from some eyes. To question the ardent beliefs of faithful Catholics who stand up for the truth, and to twist that righteousness into having reservations, being of dissent, being a detractor, or not welcoming someone is an abomination. Social Justice does not include a pro-death attitude or right thereof to terminate the life of the innocent.
Lastly, life and death, good and evil, truth and lies can’t be blended; they are irreconcilable, opposites, and true peace will not be found within any reconciliation based on what is good for all ‘beliefs’ because there is only one true church.
Published by: JC
Eagle River, AK USA 03/30/2009 09:24 PM EST
All of these double speaking people are no more Catholic than Thomas Cromwell was during the time of King Henry the 8th... To keep your head, sometimes you must loose your head.... But you gain eternal life.
Published by: Edward G. Stafford
Brigantine, NJ 03/30/2009 08:27 PM EST
Poor Mr. Kmiec, he has sold his soul and his reason in the vain hope that dialogue with the Obama administration will lead to a change of convictions on life issues or deliver social justice to a larger number of people. He also brings out that old stupidity that there is scientific disagreement on the point at which human life begins - not at all, all scientists, well those at least who have passed h.s. biology know that a unique human being begins when the DNA of the father's sperm fuses with the DNA of the mother's ovum. Like Joe Biden, he restates the foolish error that science does not know when life begins. It does, it just gives us no direction on the proper moral response to that scientific fact. For that, we need moral leaders, and for that we need moral leadership from our universities. In that, Notre Dame has failed, as has Kmiec.
Published by: Ron Pichlik
Battle Creek, MI USA 03/30/2009 07:49 PM EST
The solution to these situations is very simple. While the Church can no longer dictate to the colleges and the universities it sure can dictate to its priests. Fr. Jenkins should immediately be notified by his bishop that he is resigning as president of the university and will be reassigned forthwith, to some position where he can do minimal harm. If institutions like Notre Dame insist on calling themselves "Catholic" and engage in behavior that is contrary to and undermining to teacing and advancing Catholic teachings then strip them of their Catholic identity. Let them founder as nothing more than a private, secular institution. Most of the big Catholic schools that come to mind have long ago abandoned Catholic teaching anyway; and, have only been trotting out "we're Catholic" at fundraising time anyway.
Published by: James
Tampa/FL 03/30/2009 07:48 PM EST
Prof. Kmiec is irrelevant relative to his opinions on Catholicism. He has proven himself to be quite capable of disrespecting our faith for some time repeatedly caving to the winds of relativism. God have mercy on him. If President Jenkins does not rescind his invitation out of respect to the millions of lives lost to abortion, then I plan on being there at Notre Dame to peacefully protest President Obama's presence on the grounds of Notre Dame!
Published by: Robert
New York 03/30/2009 07:44 PM EST
Weigel has reason, Kmiec has excuses. If Obama had any good sense, he should excuse himself from the commencement and the honorary degree being bestowed upon him as it would have been empty. I'm sure there's a host of other universities with the same mind as he has that are just dying to bestow upon him the honor which no self-respecting Catholic university ought to bestow upon a supporter of abortion as this president.
Published by: 48d6t
Lewiston, ID, USA 03/30/2009 07:00 PM EST
It is possible to disagree without being disagreeable. One might reflect on the fact that over three decades of intrangenence have not ended abortion, and the definition of insanity is to try the same thing expecting a different result. We achieve nothing by being hysterical over someone who is Christian to the core in most to all other regards.
Published by: A Faithful Catholic
Richmond VA 03/30/2009 06:58 PM EST
Why does your agency describe Kmiec as a "Catholic scholar"? He is neither Catholic nor is he a scholar. Such a description is what I would expect from the ignorant mainstream media but not from CNA.
Published by: kate
new york, ny usa 03/30/2009 06:57 PM EST
Shame on Notre Dame! Obama must be laughing his head off that the premier Catholic University is honoring him while he is trying to destroy the Church and everything it stands for!!
Published by: Kiet Tran
Oak Hill VA 03/30/2009 06:13 PM EST
A case against Kmiec
By defending Obama, Kmiec has become pro-choice. I wish Kmiec would come around and proclaim that he is pro-choice. His arguments are more and more like a pro-choice politician. In fact he is already aligned himself with Pelosi, Sebelius, Kerry, and Kennedy. I just wonder what stops him from saying that he's a pro-choice. In order to have a fair argument, one must state his position clearly. Anything less than that is weak. He states that he’s pro-life but every single reason he gives in defense Obama is about ‘race.’ Kmiec is therefore weak and struggled to retain his reputation that is diminished quickly as Obama continue his assault on life. Pro-life is about life. I care deeply about the poor and the less fortunate who don't have adequate health care. To compare them with the murdered unborn are not fair. The livings have far more opportunity than the aborted. The livings are here and they unborn are not. The aborted unborn has NO chance. Why is it Kmiec quick to forget them for the sake of an African-American president? One man is more important that millions killed? Kmiec’s logic is faulty at best and deceitful at worse. What kind of society is it that the entire class of its citizens is condemned by a single stroke of pen? Obama is willing to do that (first thing I will do, he said).
Published by: Mary
Anthem Az 03/30/2009 06:01 PM EST
When Kmiec states that all Americans rejoiced when Obama was elected just showed that he is out of touch with reality. Obama reasoning is no better than Kmiec.
I have yet found anyone that can explain exactly what policies that Obama promotes that will help poverty and justice. The charitiable organizations that already exist and the ones that are helping the poor and marginalized do the best at helping. Do we really want to take that out of their hands and add it to the governments? People that believe this is best are definitely not on the front lines when it comes to helping people. The government is the worse solution for the poor.
Published by: Rose
Texas 03/30/2009 02:37 PM EST
I am not Catholic but stand with those who think that Obama should not have been asked to speak. I also think good manners dictates that he should should refuse the invitation rather than inflict his opinions on those who believe in living their faith. I would not want him speaking at SMU, TCU, Baylor or any such church affiliated school. His stance on abortion no longer gives him the right to expect invitations of any kind form any Christian or Jewish peoples.
Published by: Jim
Mission Viejo, CA 03/30/2009 02:27 PM EST
Except for thier names,(Kmiec and Notre Dame), are a disgrace!
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