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.- The Editor-in-chief of the Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano explained today to Paulo Rodari, a Vatican analyst for the daily “Il Riformista,” that President Barack Obama’s speech to graduates of Notre Dame was very respectful and that he “is not a pro-abortion president.” Subscriber comments:
Published by: barp
SNG 09/29/2009 07:22 AM EST
Catholic leaders refuse to see much wrong with Obama or the Democratic Party. They all pretty much belong to the same club, the Socialist one.
Published by: Susan
Virginia, USA 05/27/2009 01:55 PM EST
Words cannot express how dismayed I was to read this article. I kept 'waiting for the calvary' to come riding in from the Vatican to stand up with the 70 Bishops and faithful American Catholics who spoke out against Obama's agressivly pro-abortion stance and Notre Dame University's despicable honoring of him. I ask all my fellow-Christians to keep the faith and pray with all hope to our Blessed Mother, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit...to sort this out in Their Holy Grace. Amen.
Published by: Alfredo Meyer
Venezuela 05/26/2009 09:34 AM EST
In a few words I think editor of obsservatore romano must be fired. His words show he is not thinking agree with the Catholic Church topics like abortion.
Published by: Kathryn G
Midland, MI USA 05/25/2009 06:40 PM EST
No enemies on the Left, remember? Of course she, nor do most of our bishops and Catholic leaders refuse to see much wrong with Obama or the Democratic Party. They all pretty much belong to the same club, the Socialist one.
Published by: Nancy M
ValleyStream New York 05/25/2009 02:32 PM EST
Not pro-abortion? He wants to sign a bill taking away every meager impediment to abortion that different states have eneacted. Obama is not interested in anything but throwing money at situations in order to get more votes in 2012.
Does the Vatican editor know that Obam reinstated funds to population projects in China that used FORCED abortion and sterilization ? Is that OK because he says nice words about "dialogue" ?
Published by: Al Wunsch
The Villages, Fl. USA 05/24/2009 03:58 PM EST
Editor-in-chief Gian Maria Vian must have been listening to a different speech than the one I listened to or else he is viewing it through the same glasses his secular fellow journalists do. President Obama is the master of deception saying what sound right but doing what is the opposite. His reversal of the Mexico City Policy, and of the U.S. position on abortion in the U.N., his notice to cancel the conscience clause for health professionals all are pro abortion. His choice for members of his cabinet are all abortion activists. So watch what he does, not what he says. None of his moves, so far, will reduce the number of abortions - to the contrary they will only encourage them.
Published by: Isaac
Kingston,Ontario, Canada 05/24/2009 10:57 AM EST
Machiavelli is smiling at his children in the RC church. He is so proud.
Published by: Jeff
Colo Sprgs/CO/U.S. 05/24/2009 09:00 AM EST
It is so wonderful to see all of the world's greatest Christians insulting and condemning the editor-in such strong and un-christian terms too. They seem to be the same people from the right extreme in the U.S. who have been trying to outdo each other with anti-Obama chatter since last November.
Published by: Arwin
Netherlands 05/24/2009 06:06 AM EST
A European response to
"A confrontation that the Holy See neither approves nor disapproves. Simply observes" You'd think a German Pope would be more careful with 'simply observing'. I know that after JPII the Bishops wanted less centralisation but this is redicilous. This Berlusconi-era jackass Italian editor should be fired, he's unfit as a journalist, lacking any critical ability. Simply because he does not want to believe BOzo isn't pro-life doesn't mean BOzo is=, just look at the damn facts! We should send e-mails etc. to Rome to fire this idiot! Obama Bought The Presidency
Published by: Jeanne Jeanne
Cerritos, CA USA 05/23/2009 11:11 PM EST
Printing distortions of facts as they exist, this paper has lost all credibility with anyone who knows how to read. What were they thinking?
Published by: Taekwondodad
San Jose/CA/USSA 05/23/2009 08:11 AM EST
I find it hard to see how the Vatican News Paper and The Vatican Hierarchy would speak differently. I am confused, does the L'Osservatore Romano, always speak independent of the Catholic Hierarchy? Is the Popes Secretary part of that Hierarchy? What is going on here is what we in American call "They speak with Fork Tongue." I thought the Pope was Pro Life? Am I mistaken? To most of us the Vatican IS the Pope. So does this mean that the Pope likes Obama position of looking for common ground on Abortion?
Published by: William
State College, PA USA 05/22/2009 11:19 PM EST
As usual, American Catholics think that they are a law unto themselves and do not realise that their perspective is severely limited. I am glad that this article shows that the view of the Church is much broader than their narrow-minded partisanship.
Published by: Doug
kansas USA 05/22/2009 10:15 PM EST
That fact that Obama doesn't bend to the will of the "pro-life" group doesn't mean he isn't listening to what they have to say. The fact of the mstter is those who suggest that Obama isn't listening to the pro-life group, make them them appear the one's to be misleading, doing there cause more harm then good, in the event there is truly some left undecided on the issue of when life actually begins.
Published by: Georgette
Ak, USA 05/22/2009 07:27 PM EST
I am shocked...just so shocked that this piece is written by a Catholic and published...in the Vatican newspaper. Barack H. Obama is an eloquent wolf in sheep's clothing. Please wake up and smell your coffee then get educated about this President. He is a confirmed abortionist of the worst kind.
Published by: Paul Francis
Philly 05/22/2009 05:19 PM EST
This is why we need a real John Wayne-type Pope - one who would fire on the spot a traitor such as Vian. "Just observes," indeed. May Pope Benedict be assisted to realize the enemies in his house he has as such, and to this end, may all who love the unborn pray for a powerful surge of fortitude from the Holy Spirit for His Holiness.
Published by: geronimo
planet earth 05/22/2009 04:48 PM EST
Hitler was a good speaker.
Published by: Amanda Palister
Virginia, USA 05/22/2009 01:59 PM EST
Father,
Forgive us our trespasses as you hold our little ones close to You. Help us to see the error of our ways. Change our hearts to be open to Your divine will. Amen.
Published by: Gregory Solman
Crestline, Calif., USA 05/22/2009 01:58 PM EST
This is precisely the sort of "cover" Obama was seeking.
Ironically, NOR links two other stories today, one about the erosion of the conscience clause in Britain and another concerning the attack on the Catholic church in Maine, now that gay rights have been instituted. That's the future of the Obamanation. I suggest a quick solution to this controversy. Signor Vian and Father Jenkins should both resign on the day that Obama nominates to the SCOTUS the most virulently anti-Catholic and pro-abortion justice since the ex-ACLU mouthpiece Ginsberg. I think that is the justice we deserve as readers/observers subjected to Notre Dame's (and now the Vatican newspaper's) pro-abortion propoganda and negligent naivete. I don't need to recite the litany to smart CNS readers, but everything Obama said at Notre Dame is standard-issue, indeed trite, leftist rhetorical sophistry. (Let's reduce the need for abortion--by global population control; and support women who have babies--by bloated nanny-state social programs; and increase adoption--by shutting down any Catholic Charities unit that won't adopt to "gay" couples; and don't harshly judge women who murder their children--you know, they gave it some though, except, apparently, for the hundreds of thousands who have had multiple abortions.) It's the same old song and dance for the ignorant-Catholic vote. The only difference is the shocking willingness to play along.
Published by: Jesus Cruz
Rio Rico, Arizona 05/22/2009 12:14 PM EST  Rate: Excellent
Mr. Obama is a great speaker. He has an excellent way to communicate with the youth of the world. I can see how the editor was impressed but in following Mr. Obama since he emerged in the Public forum he has been extending the abortion cause. He says he is objective and does not listen to the pro life groups. His eloquent speaches have caused confusion for the catholic youth of America. He will continue to confuse our youth with editorials that praise him in speaking of objectivity when in fact he is pushing the abortion agenda to the world youth. He is untouchable since the majority of the media in the US also favor him and do not report the truth. To have the editor of the vatican newspaper do the same is very confusing to the catholic youth of the world.
Published by: Jan Blevins
Franklin, La. 70538 05/22/2009 11:54 AM EST Rate: Very Good
How can you as Christians publish such lies? Obama is the most liberal pro-abortion person we have here in the United States. Don't you follow the news? Watch Foxs News here in the states for the real truth. You have a duty for our Catholic religion to tell the public the truth or has satan gotten to your souls, too? You will have much to answer for come judgment day. If I were you I would not listen to Obama's lies. He is for abortion! He is for late term abortion also. Abortion is murder no matter which way you look at it. It's bad enough he is deceiving many people in our states, please don't let him deceive you, too. I am very disappointed in you! God help you all if you don't revise this article.
Published by: DJ
USA 05/22/2009 11:12 AM EST Rate: Very Good
I wonder how long it will take the world to learn not to take anything Obama says seriously. Be comforted if you want that he told the crowd at Notre Dame that FOCA is not a priority. But be aware that he told feminist groups during the campaign that it would be his first priority. It boggles the mind that so many people still have not learned that Obama will say what is expedient in every possible situation. His words mean absolutely nothing.
Published by: Vincent Bemowski
Appleton, WI USA 05/22/2009 11:05 AM EST Rate: Excellent
It is a grave error to say "Obama is not pro-abortion." Throughout his entire political career he has always voted for, and believed in, “a woman’s right to choose." However, like others who share his beliefs he never finishes that sentence. What he really means is a woman has the "right" to put her unborn child (a human being) to death through a deliberate abortion.
Therefore, he is without question, "pro-abortion." He is also a master politician and a great deceiver. He may say is “open” to discussing abortion, but he will not change his mind about his belief it should be "allowed." Obama has yet to go against the will of the majority of his political party (Democratic) that has for many years believed in “abortion rights,” so why is he to be believed he will do so in the future? The "Bill of Rights" in the US Constitution clearly states that we are “created” equal and not “born” equal. However, Obama's interpretation is quite different, as is his interpretation of the Commandment: "Thou shalt not kill." One speech does not make a politician believable - only his deeds. The only reason Obama now appears to be open to discussions about abortion is he sees the tide turning against abortion in the US and he, like other “pro-abortion” politicians, is concerned about his popularity and remaining in a position of power. Obama is a master politician; be careful about believing his actions will back up his words.
Published by: Dave
San Diego/CA/US 05/22/2009 10:39 AM EST Rate: Excellent
Of course Obama is pro-abortion! He's the most radically anti-life President in the history of the US. The Vatican ought to remove the editor of L’Osservatore Romano before he ends up embarasing the Catholic Church.
Published by: Mason
California 05/22/2009 10:29 AM EST
"Because they speak about a confrontation between Obama and the Catholic Church which for now seems to be limited mainly among part of the American episcopate". In other words, Obama can do as he pleases without fear of criticism? Willful blindness on the part of L’Osservatore Romano. Sad.
Published by: John DeFriend
Floyds Knobs 05/22/2009 10:16 AM EST
Treason is in season. What's the reason? If it prosper none dare call it treason.
By John Stormer in the 60s
Published by: Ralph Gasbarro
Franklin,MA USA 05/22/2009 10:05 AM EST Rate: Excellent
The person who wrote that obama is not a pro abortion president has absolutley no idea what they are saying and are doing their readers a monumental diservice.Publish his voting records, what he says about his position at every turn. His speech at Notre Dame was just another example of saying and doing two different things, which is a daily occurence here.It is terrible that you are trying to mislead your readers. Very dissapointed!
Published by: J.B.
Mpls/MN/USA 05/22/2009 09:58 AM EST
Does the editor of L'Osservatore Romano know what is going on? Or are they, in Europe, under a spell like in the early 30's, in Germany? Something in the Bible about the time when even the elect will be lead astray.
Published by: J.M. Sauer
Plymouth MA USA 05/22/2009 09:51 AM EST
Like so many Americans, Gian Maria Vian has responded favorably to a great orator and man of genius. Unfortunately, President Obama’s genius is of the evil variety – evil that mixes truth with lies in order to effectively deceive. Make no mistake about it: Obama is the world leader in the Culture of Death. Pay no heed to rhetoric, but observe his deeds: Repeal of the Mexico City agreement exporting abortion, creation and destruction of embryos for stem cell research, promotion of late term abortion and the killing of infants who have in fact been born, taxpayer dollars for Planned Parenthood, repeal of the “conscience clause”, appointment of rabidly pro-death officials like Kathleen Sebelius to Health and Human Services and pro-death judges like David Hamilton to the Federal bench. ALL THIS WITHIN THE “FIRST 100-DAYS”! Further, despite his insistence that it is not on his immediate agenda, he favors the Freedom of Choice Act that will remove ALL restrictions on abortion. Rest assured that when Justice Souter retires, the litmus test for his replacement will be another child killer. There are elements of the demonic in this president’s actions. For the love of God, these are BABIES being MURDERED by the cart load. May God help our president and his pro-death minions see the light. May God help the people of the United States of America wake up! Pray that our president develops the wisdom to match his charisma.
Published by: dR JAMES KIGHTLINGER
Dubois/Pa/USA 05/22/2009 09:19 AM EST
YOU MUST BE KIDDING !
IT IS OBVIOUS THAST THE EDITOR OF THE VATICAN NEWSPAPER IS MENTALLY CHALLENGED & CERTAINLY NOT AWARE OF WHAT OBAMA STANDS FOR & AND IS INCAPABLE OF SEEING THE OVERALL PICTURE. THE EDITOR NEEDS TO BE REEDUCATED AS TO THE FACTS OF THIS MAN'S HISTORY SINCE HE HAS BEEN IN THE PRESIDENCY I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN SUCH A POOR RESPONSE FROM THE "VATICAN" NEWSPAPER. NEEDS A NEW EDITOR.
Published by: Mary
Sinking Spring Pennyslvania 05/22/2009 09:15 AM EST
All I can say is that Apostolic Succession does not lie with Editor-in-chief Gian Maria Vian but does indeed reside with our Bishops. May God with the Holy Spirit continue to Bless and protect them as they fight against the culture of death Mr. Obama promotes the culture of death with his actions while blinding others with his complimentary words.
Published by: Carol Puzz
Conroe, TX USA 05/22/2009 09:09 AM EST
Obama is what Obama does.
Published by: Walt Mather
Bradford 05/22/2009 09:02 AM EST
The above article is merely evidence of how the objective truth that abortion is an intrinsic evil can be subjectively rationalized to the level of being an "other perspective"....what an insult!
Published by: Ronald Borowski
Waukesha/Wisconsin/USA 05/22/2009 08:25 AM EST
It appears that Mr. Vian's analysis and conclusion about "Obama is not a pro-abortion president" is factually wrong! His conclusion is not supported by the factual record of Obama's voting postions while in the Illinois and US Senate. Mr. Obama's speeches to NARAL and other pro-abortion groups makes very clear and unmistakable his position of total women's rights to choose. He also voted in favor of allowing late-term abortion children that lived to be killed. His past actions speak louder than his current ideological rhetoric.
Published by: Mike Drabik
Toledo, Ohio 05/22/2009 08:22 AM EST
Obama not pro-abortion?!!. What's this editor been smoking? If h continues on this vein - which is heterodox - he needs to be replaced. If he isn't then the Holy See will give the impression it is pandering to a powerful world leader rather than standing with the Truth. It's happened before in history. The only thing I'm thankful for is that L'Osservatore Romano is not a teaching element of the Church.
Published by: Larry
Dallas/ TX/ USA 05/22/2009 08:20 AM EST
The president says he wants to reduce abortions. His policies do not sync up with his rhetoric. I am not aware of one policy that President Obama supported that would have an immediate effect on reducing abortions. He could even keep a women's so called choice intact and still reduce abortions in a couple of simple ways but as usual his actions do not follow his rhetoric. For example, he has not been in favor of waiting periods or the requirement that all women be at least offered the opportunity to view their baby in a sonogram before aborting the baby. If the goal for the president is to reduce abortions and to keep the women's choice intact, these two simple things would achieve just that. The use of the sonogram which has been shown to reduce abortions demonstrates not what but who is being aborted.
The sonogram would give women the most complete information before choosing life for the baby or aborting him/ her. Why does the president object to have complete information before choosing what to do? We try to get complete information before having surgery. It is because he is pro-abortion. If it was only a matter of choice he would not be against the above policies. For the president, it is not merely a matter of choice but a matter of being pro-abortion.
Published by: Peter M. Quinlan
San Antonio, TX USA 05/22/2009 08:17 AM EST
Paulo Radari's view certainly intrigues me. Here, in my part of the USA we listen to a person's words, but we judge that person by his or her actions. Mr. Radari needs to check Obama's voting record on Abortion. It is abominable, and Obama's words, aberrant.
Published by: James Price
Beaumont/Texas/USA 05/22/2009 07:41 AM EST
Obviously Mr. Paulo Rodari does not see the obvious, what Mr. Obama says is light years apart from what he does.
Published by: Bob
Omaha 05/22/2009 07:12 AM EST
Gian Maria Vian, I hope you can read english. You COULD NOT BE MORE wrong on your analysis of Barack Obama and his pro-abortion stance. You are writing a long distance away from the U.S. shoreline and are speaking from what you cannot see and do not know. He definitely is a pro-abortion president. It is obvious you have not done a thorough background check on this man and his track record of voting for pro-death in the Illinois legislation. There is no way you could have checked to notice the pro-death decisions he has already made as president and the pro-death decisions he is threatening to execute. Don’t let the “smoke of Satan” cloud your vision from the truth about Barack Obama.
Published by: Dave
Boulder, CO, USA 05/22/2009 07:07 AM EST
I'm amazed - To me he has put a clear stop to all dialogue on abortion. The situation could not be more clear. He supports killing little people and I do not. It's either life or death. No room for compromise. Rodari must be replaced
Published by: Elizabeth
Clayton, NC, USA 05/22/2009 07:01 AM EST
I would say the author of this piece doesn't read many English language publications. To say that Obama is NOT pro abortion is like saying the Pope is not pro-life! Both statments are diabolical errors.
Published by: Joe Falcony
Newburgh, Indiana 05/22/2009 06:59 AM EST
You have to be kidding. This man supports every bill that is pro abortion. He has voted to deny medical care to babies that live after an abortion,he supports partial birth abortion and he will appoint supreme court justices that will keep abortion legal for years. The Catholic church has to get it's head out of the sand and stand for what it says it believes in. If we are pro life, then act like it. People are leaving the church because they feel like the church is afraid to take a stand. Let me make this clear for you. Obama does not have a Pro Life bone in his body. The fact that only 80 Bishops spoke out on his speech and honorary degree is embarrasing. The fact the the Pope and the vatican were silent is even more sad. To say that Obama is not pro abortion is ignorant. May God bless you.
Published by: AGonzalez
Rio Grande City, Texas USA 05/22/2009 06:44 AM EST
The editor of the Vatican newspaper who says Obama is not pro-abortion is simply wrong. He should distinguish what Obama says and what he has done and has promised to do. Obama could not be more pro-abortion!
Published by: G Hawkins
Wellington, New Zealand 05/22/2009 06:30 AM EST
"..the President said that the approval of the new law on abortion is not a priority of his administration"
Which 'new law' is this since it is not explained in the story... And yet the story claims "The fact that he said that is very reassuring to me. It also underlines my own clear belief: Obama is not a pro-abortion president." Logical question: Just what 'new' abortion law did this 'non pro-abortion' president just sign into law? And what exactly *did* the new president say to L’Osservatore Romano?
Published by: Bob
Excelsior/Mn/USA 05/22/2009 06:04 AM EST
Would this same editor have said that Bush was not pro-war?
Published by: Linda
Bensalem 05/22/2009 06:04 AM EST
You have got to be kidding. Anyone who says that he wouldn't want to saddles his daughters with a mistake should they become pregnant and allowed a full term baby to die without care in a botched abortion is hardly pro-life, nor is he anti-abortion. Who cares that he spoke with respect to all sides. This man panders to the crowd he speaks to and says nothing. If he speaks to a pro-abortion crowd, he will pander to them. If he speaks to a pro-life crowd, he will pander to them. Here he was in a so-called catholic university where he knew had to cater to both sides on the issue because of the division among catholics, so he played it safe. But, not all are fooled by his rhetoric.
Published by: Bob Skurka
Lowell, Indiana, USA 05/22/2009 06:03 AM EST
President Obama, by his actions, is very PRO-ABORTION but by his words sounds reasonable. If judged by his words he is Pro-Life but his words betray his actions and his actions are clearly promoting death.
Rodari can 'believe' that President Obama is not PRO-ABORTION and I can believe that the moon is made of cheese. Doesn't make either one of those things true. Judge him by his deeds and his PRO-ABORTION stance is very clear.
Published by: John Bettinger
Kettering, Ohio 05/22/2009 05:25 AM EST
I did not trust Obama before he was elected, after he was elected & during his speech at Notre Dame. Gian Maria Vian PLEASE.
Published by: Noel T.
AUSTRALIA 05/22/2009 05:11 AM EST
I am getting totally confused with the perceived flip-flop on attitudes coming out of the Vatican or their so-called official organs. Either Pres. Obama is or he is not a pro-abortion advocate. Let only one person speak not a multitude of spokesmen(woman).
Published by: VICTORIA
USA 05/22/2009 04:16 AM EST
OF COURSE OBAMA IS PRO ABORTION. HE IS ALSO PRO INFANTICIDE. CHECK HIS SENATE VOTING RECORD IN CHICAGO. THIS EDITOR IS CLUELESS AND NEEDS TO BE INFORMED AND CORRECTED. GOD HELP THE BLIND AND THOSE WHO LEAD THE SHEEP ASTRAY.
Published by: Barbara O'Brien Arato
Long Island New York, USA 05/22/2009 02:40 AM EST
As someone else has pointed out, you can not talk about abortion and not mention the unborn and in some cases the born alive baby that is murdered. If Pres. Obama is not pro abortion because he says things nicely, perhaps one can better understand why Italy went along with Hitler.
Published by: John Hazelbaker
Lakewood WA/USA 05/22/2009 01:01 AM EST
What have you been smoking?? He IS ALL FOR ABORTION and is a poor excuse for a president. God help this country...For the sake of His sorrowful Passion!! One more reason for me to be embarrassed to be a Catholic after 67 years...all the sex crimes by religious...when will it all end????
Published by: Hoss Gardner
Phoenix, Arizona, USA 05/22/2009 12:39 AM EST
Obama promises to sign the Freeedome of Choice Act. I think they need some new people at the vatican.
Published by: R E Mc Candlish
Chihuahua, Mexico 05/21/2009 11:18 PM EST
Please tell me that Vian is referring to a different Obama from the one that won the November election; the one that repealed the Mexico City protocols; the one who promised that signing FOCA into law would be his highest priority; the one who is ready to force Pro-Life medical professionals to violate their consciences regarding artificial birth control and/or abortion; The one who, while an IL state senator, supported infanticide in the case of a baby born who had survived abortion... Oh, I could go on and on. The fact remains that Obama is the most pro-death and pro-abortion president that has ever held office in the US. I must wonder what planet spewed Vian, to believe this stuff that he prints?
Published by: DanR
Colorado Springs CO 05/21/2009 10:57 PM EST
Too bad Mr. Rodari is simply wrong. He needs to look at the president's voting records.
Published by: Josephat
Denver, CO US 05/21/2009 10:50 PM EST
Right... If you merely analyze what Obama said in his speech at Notre Dame you can indeed draw this conclusion. The problem with that is that Obama says lots of things, then goes about implementing and doing only those that meet his far left Marxist agenda. So he says abortion won't be high on his agenda...and he won't mention it again - wahoo. Then everyone will be oh so surprised when some sweeping pro-abortion and pro-contraceptive language is tucked away inside his sweeping health care reforms. When is the church going to wake up and draw a definitive line in the sand? In Colorado our Bishop supported our 'pro-life' Catholic running for Govenor. Who was elected then promptly signed the bill to have built one of the largest abortion clinics in the state's capital. Do not be fooled by the wolves in sheep's clothing. They are circling the prey here in America and it will be the church that suffers the consequences.
Published by: Lillian McGowan
Wareham, MA USA 05/21/2009 10:11 PM EST
It is no wonder that Catholics are leaving the churcdh when our leaders do not uphold all that we hold dear...such as the sanctity of life from conception to natural death. Shame on the editor and shame on Notre Dame for honoring the most pro-abortion president ever. If you don't think that withholding attempts to save the life of a baby born alive from a botched abortion constitutes murder, then I don't know what my beloved church is coming to. Just wait and see what he will do on partial birth abortion and the complete abortion issue.
Published by: Thomas Magner
San Antonio, Texas USA 05/21/2009 10:02 PM EST
It is outrageous that a Paper that ostensiby represents the Vactican would print such a red herring piece of journalism.
Published by: Gracie Guillotte
Franklin, La USA 05/21/2009 09:37 PM EST
I am flabbergasted by Gian Maria Vian's comments about Obama not being a pro-abortion president!! How can someone, especially the editor-in-chief of L'Osservatore make such an outrageous comment? This is almost blasphemy!!He has obviously been "Obamanized"!!
Published by: Eric
lake Bluff, IL, USA 05/21/2009 09:24 PM EST
With "friends" like Rodari the unborn don't need enemies like Obama? The Holy See "simply observes"? Seems like somebody else did that on Good Friday, simply observe.
Published by: Mark
Edison/NJ/USA 05/21/2009 09:19 PM EST
Pro Life doctors forced to perform abortions, funding for abortions in U.S. and overseas, stem cell research funding and cancellation of abstinence programs all in the first 4 months. Sounds like Obama is pretty much pro abortion and acting rather quickly to promote it as his top priority.
Published by: Dave Webster
LaGrange OH, USA 05/21/2009 09:10 PM EST
Obama, not a pro-abortion president??! The smoke of Satan in the Vatican!
Dave Webster
Published by: Evalina Van Lengen
Margate, Florida, USA 05/21/2009 09:05 PM EST
I cannot believe what I have just read. May God have mercy on all of us.
Published by: Mary
Michigan, USA 05/21/2009 08:52 PM EST
I urge everyone to write the Holy Father and the mis-imformed L' Osservatore Romano, that articles such are this is detrimental to the Faith/Faithful.
Published by: Anita
Florida,USA 05/21/2009 08:06 PM EST
I think the editor of L'Osservatore needs to take off his/her "rose colored glasses" and rethink their opinion of President Obama. He has said in no uncertain terms that he believes abortion is O.K.
Published by: Mark H.
MD, USA 05/21/2009 05:57 PM EST
I disagree with Mr. Gian Maria Vian and believe the President is pro-abortion. There is nothing this President has ever done to reduce, lessen, restrict, or end abortion. Anytime he has done something related to abortion, he has made it more accessible. Since becoming President, he has made federal money (taxpayer dollars) available to internatioanl groups that support abortion, support abortion, and released statement restating support for Roe v. Wade decision that allows virtually unlimited abortions and has resulted in at least 50 million abortions since 1973. At Notre Dame, he spoke of working to reduce abortions, but if abortion is OK, why reduce it? To want reduce it should mean there is somethingn wrong with abortion (which there is), but he will not eliminate it. He stated we should all come together and talk about it...would he say the same about waterboarding (which I believe is torture, and wrong)? Why is waterboarding considered wrong, yet the killing of innocent life, a life that cannot defend itself, is OK? I am pro-life...I am against the death penalty, against torture, against war, and against the taking of innocent life (especially by abortion). Obama has never protected the unborn, and has done more to advance abortion in this country than any other Preseident. Three times as a state senator he worked to prevent legislation that would provide medical attention to babies that survived a failed abortion...he is pro-abortion!
Published by: Mary
Oklahoma 05/21/2009 05:56 PM EST
One can only wonder if Gian Maria Vian is lying to himself, or to the rest of the world? Because there can be no doubt the Obama is in fact a pro-aborton president.
Published by: Suzanne de Decker
Arlington, TX USA 05/21/2009 05:32 PM EST
I am reminded of Our Lord saying to the church at Laodicea, "You are neither hot nor cold so I spit you out of my mouth." Any spokesman for the Church has got to be definitive in his/her statement and proclaim the Truth as defined by Holy Scripture and the Magistereum. These issues of abortion and embryonic stem cell "research" are INTRINSIC EVILS and Always wrong. No matter how a public figure or institution "spins" them they always and everywhere "smell like smoke and come from the pit of hell."
Published by: Maxpower
US 05/21/2009 05:28 PM EST
Since charity begins at home, I'm glad the Church is employing people with such severe mental handicaps. Not sure they should be doing PR though.
Published by: Nancy
N.E., USA 05/21/2009 05:04 PM EST
Does this individual have two more ears than I have because that is not what I am hearing at all.
Published by: Gramma
USA 05/21/2009 04:54 PM EST
I think Vian has not read the news, followed the changes in the 100 days since Obama took office. His platform was on more easily obtainable abortion, pushing the gay agenda, hushing the "moral majorit" and is making this the most left-wing liberal policy in US history. It is a shame to see Vian say such a rediculous statement when the exact opposite is true...Obama is the MOST PRO-ABORTION PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Published by: Ethel
Bismarck ND 05/21/2009 04:47 PM EST
Simply observes...Not sure thazt is a fight The Holy See cannot get into . He who is not for me is against me.If we are esxpecterd to be true to the Holy See doesn't he need to wade into this battle?
Published by: Janice Brown
Palm Desert, CA, USA 05/21/2009 04:19 PM EST
Editor: Is it possible for anyone to hear or read that speech from Obama to believe he is not the worst pro abortion President we have ever elected?
Time, Pope Benedict, respectfully, fire that one!
Published by: Geraldine Abi-Nader
Hermitage, PA USA 16148 05/21/2009 03:42 PM EST
An unbelievable article. I don't agree with it, and I think the writer is pro-abortion. what a shame. Again, the babies lose. who really cares? shame, shame.
Published by: Brenda Eble
Woodstock Ga.,30188 05/21/2009 03:32 PM EST
It is quite obvious you do not know what you are talking about .Everyone he has placed in office is definitely pro abortion .If we can't trust even the Vatican newspaper.God help us .
Published by: charles e hansen
gunnison, co, usa 05/21/2009 03:16 PM EST
If crushing the skull of a 9 month full term baby, called "partial-birth abortion," which Obama voted for is not "abortion then I guess we will have to call it by its correct name: murder.
Published by: Patrick
Ottawa 05/21/2009 03:09 PM EST
1. One of his first acts as President was to make millions of dollars accesible to abortion clinics the world over.... Seems pretty pro-abortion to me.
2. He said at Notre Dame that he does support a womans right to choose.. If she chooses abortion, then he supports that... Seems pretty pro-abortion to me. 3. You said that "Obama has not upset the world." For someone who works for the Vatican how can you not know that "the worlds opinion" is irrelevant. It is Divine opinion he should be concerned with. GOD is pretty clear on this point. Thou shalt not kill. Satan confuses people. he would have you believe it is okay for the woman to choose to terminate a life inside of her. Satan is laughing at how easily manipulated we are. God was very clear on his commandments for a reason. So that there would be NO confusion. If your confused, your not interpreting the commandments or the bible correctly. Prayer will bring you discernment. The Messages of Medjugorje will as well.
Published by: taad
Louisville, USA 05/21/2009 02:55 PM EST
John Paul II would not have permitted such nonsense as is going on. His spokesperson was very clear on these matters. The Secretary of State of the Vatican should be replaced quickly!
Published by: Grace Alvarez
Twain Harte, CA, USA 05/21/2009 02:54 PM EST
Let us be very clear, there is no single platform called, "pro-abortion". It is using symantecs in a very clever way when Gian Maria Vian explains away Obama's position in referring to the Obama speech given at Notre Dame University. Mr. Obama is loudly and clearly a pro-choice individual. He believes a woman has the right to expel from her body an "unwanted/unplanned" pregnancy - under any conditions and for any reasons!!! That, is being pro-abortion. Gian Maria Vian sees Obama through the same rose colored glasses that the American media do - and we are the ones who lose - because there is no longer truth and integrity in the media.
Published by: Becky
Austin TX 05/21/2009 02:53 PM EST
Saying Pres. Obama is not a pro-abortion president is like saying a women can be a "little bit pregnant"!! If you don't DISAGREE with abortion, wouldn't that make you in some sense of the work "pro-abortion"?
Published by: Dr. C. L.
Fresno, CA, USA 05/21/2009 02:47 PM EST
I sent a comment, but I do not see it posted.
I am deeply disturbed and appalled by this article. It is unbelievable!
Published by: Richard Johnson
Kirkland, WA USA 05/21/2009 02:29 PM EST
Just as U.S. newsrooms, ignorant of Catholocism, refuse to have a faithful Catholic source, it seems that L'Osservatore, completely ignorant of American politics, refuses to have a faithfil American Catholic advisor. The result is predictably ridiculous statements that our secular press can attribute to "the Vatican."
Published by: Richard Johnson
Kirkland, WA USA 05/21/2009 02:27 PM EST
Just as U.S. newsrooms, ignorant of Catholocism, refuse to have a faithful Catholic source, it seems that L'Osservatore, completely ignorant of American politics, refuses to have a faithfil American Catholic advisor. The result is predictably ridiculous statements that our secular press can attribute to "the Vatican."
Published by: Leticia Velasquez
Canterbury, CT 05/21/2009 02:22 PM EST
Let me get this straight: not taking a stand when millions of innocent human beings are being slaughtered is a good thing?
Unbelievable. Time for a new editor!
Published by: jeb
sparta, wisc. 05/21/2009 02:08 PM EST
This is enough, enough already, President Obama
is PRO-ABORTION. Where has this person been on Mars! He is doing all he can to promote the culture of death. And now he wants to take a way the rights of those in our Health care system, to refuse to have any thing to do with abortion. Then this person has the guts to say Obama is not pro-abortion. This goes to show how our President has the power to bamboozle people minds, he did a job on this person.
Published by: Johnny
Mass. 05/21/2009 01:59 PM EST
With all due respect to the Italian Editor, I live in this country and witnessed the U.S presidential election from one end to the other. And I can tell you with 100% certainty that Barack Obama is pro-abortion to the max. It's not so surprising that an editor, ANY ecitor, would be fooled.
Published by: Cathy
Nashua, NH, USA 05/21/2009 01:54 PM EST
OBAMA IS THE MOST PRO-ABORTION PRESIDENT THAT HAS EVER BEEN NOMINATED! OBAMA WAS THE MOST PRO-ABORTION SENATOR AND HE ADVOCATES INFANTICIDE! GO LOOK AT HIS CHICAGO RECORD!! DON'T BE SO BLIND! SHAME ON YOU!!!
Published by: Amy Chapman
Hunt/TX/USA 05/21/2009 01:46 PM EST
It's clear that the Father of Lies is working overtime these days ...
Published by: Loyal Catholic
Phila., PA 05/21/2009 01:44 PM EST
We must pray for the Holy Father since he appears to be surrounded by individuals who cannot see the truth of things. It is appalling that the Editor of the official newspaper of the Vatican is defending the most radical pro-abortion president our country has ever had. God help our Church.
Published by: Mike Key
Georgetown, KY USA 05/21/2009 01:43 PM EST
Obama is not a pro-abortion president? Good grief! The good editor is delusional. Faithful American Catholics don't seem to be getting much support from Rome. Does anyone over there really care? Is our only choice to bow out and fade away?
Published by: Kathleen M. Virnig
St.Cloud,MN USA 05/21/2009 01:41 PM EST
This editor, Gian Maria Vian just doesn't understand what he is saying apparently. Obama is in his speeches, everything to everyone. In his practice, he is more radically pro abortion than any and all U. S.
Presidents since 1973. He "talks" nicely, but walks with blood on his hands and feet.
Published by: A D S
South Carolina 05/21/2009 01:31 PM EST
It's painfully obvious that Rodari and Vian are naive or in denial re: Obama's voting record and politics. Obama played it safe in his speech at NDU, and it was beautiful rhetoric, aimed at "common ground." Isn't that thoughtful and politically correct of him. However, before Rodari and Vian make such a blatantly erroneous comment they should check Obama's voting record. It goes hand in hand w/ Obama's attitude re: embryonic cell-stem research and his support of American money funding abortions in other countries...
Published by: Robert Sledz
Elk Grove Village, IL, United States 05/21/2009 01:28 PM EST
Right, and the main person in charge of The Signatura had the opposite words in mind about the current administration and Notre Dame. I think a cardinal in Rome's Signatura is better informed than this editor who needs to wise up and stay informed about the Mexico policy, The Abortions on Demand using USA's tax dollars....Notre Dames' use of a man who think Life Beginning at Conception is above his "Pay Grade". This is Hideous talk coming from a Vatican Editior.
Published by: SC Phelan
Front Royal, VA 05/21/2009 01:20 PM EST
This guy claims to be speaking for the Holy See. Somebody please call an adult at the Vatican.
And the "110 days that didn't shake the world" story was NOT a report - it was an editorial. It had a viewpoint and it very conspicuously failed to mention many facts which were crucial to the position it was trying to defend. This is embarrassing for the Church and harmful to those who are trying to tell the truth about this president's abysmal anti-life record.
Published by: David Moran
Nashville, Tn/USA 05/21/2009 01:12 PM EST
By his own words, Mr. Vian puts himself in the company of fools.
Published by: Gus Skeadas
Springfield, IL USA 05/21/2009 01:12 PM EST
Who cares if Obama respects our Pro-Life position? If he is pro-abortion then that's all that counts because no lives are saved. Both the mother and the child's lives are changed forever and this guy respects the opposition?
Published by: Larry Pavlicek
St. Paul, Minnesota, USA 05/21/2009 01:11 PM EST
Care for another glass of Kool-aid Vian?
Published by: Richard Siebels
USA 05/21/2009 01:07 PM EST
The editor in chief has just single handedly made the newspaper a insignificant lying rag ... not credible at all. The editor in chief is a liberal fool who no longer has credibility {especially in a catholic paper}. I believe this editor in chief should be refused communion at least till he goes to confession and repents for his lies.
Published by: Francis J. Donovan
Hicksville NY USA 05/21/2009 12:52 PM EST
It would be helpful if the bishops would make a list of colleges that are catholic. Parents may be sending their children to colleges that we think are Catholic but they harbor theologians who are busy attacking the authority of the Church. A generation ago we were treated to the eloquence of Governor Cuomo. I have read Mario's eloquent Notre Dame address many times.The parallel with Obama's talk is striking. We have streams of flowery language in broad sweeping tones which conceal what they are and where they are going. Mario was a great disappointment to me. I knew him. He had been a co-alumnus of St. Johns Law school. He was alwqys wordy. If you could say it in two minutes, Mario would take twenty minutes. Like Obama, Mario would skirt around the issue. If you read his address you will find that he says that he believes abortion is morally wrong but that we have neither a duty not a right to impose our personal moral belief on others. Abortion is the killing of infants, Like it or not, we must call it what it is, "murder". This judgment is not unique to Catholics. Throughout the civilized world "murder" has been labeled a "crime" and prohibited. I am always amazed at the wisdom of Christ. He could have chosen the brightest of the Scribes or pharisees to become his faculty. He did not trust them. He had a simple message and he chose simple fishermen to teach it. Today I see the theologians at Catholic colleges getting the teaching on abortion all wrong and confusing our chi
Published by: Kay
US 05/21/2009 12:52 PM EST
I do not agree with this editor. Obama's actions from the beginning of his administration, especially in choosing many top pro-abortion officials to run depts, shows the American public that Obama IS for abortion. It was wrong for Notre Dame to invite him. It was wrong for Obama to accept the invitation in my opinion.
Published by: J.P. McKenney
Pine Bluff Ar USA 05/21/2009 12:52 PM EST
Apparently some one at the Vatican needs to talk to the USCCB. Obama is extremely pro abotrtion. His record proves it.
Published by: Fernando
Leander/TX/USA 05/21/2009 12:45 PM EST
The so called editor must be truly a liberal or totally blind to what legislation obama has passed and even obamas record. If people keep this knd of mentality as displayed in this paper we are all doomed. It is just shameful that people would honestly believe such printed nonsense.
Published by: J. Adamek
Kent, Ohio 05/21/2009 12:45 PM EST
This is absolutely wrong. He is one of the most proabortion president we ever had in this country. He uses words and thoughts to obscure the reader and listener. Please believe me the lives of the preborn children in the USA are in grave danger. Please pray for his conversion from this anti-life mentality.
Published by: mgb
Birmingham, AL/USA 05/21/2009 12:43 PM EST
"...the words of Vian are important. Because they speak about a confrontation between Obama and the Catholic Church which for now seems to be limited mainly among part of the American episcopate."
WRONG. The "confrontation" is not merely between Obama and the American bishops. That is a completely inaccurate portrayal of the circumstances. Rest assured, for every individual, courageous bishop who weighed-in on the issue of Obama receiving an honorary law degree from Notre Dame (espousing PRECISELY what the HOLY SEE espouses, last time I read the Catechism...perhaps Vian needs to crack it open from time-to-time), there are THOUSANDS of American lay ROMAN Catholics behind each bishop. While only 70+ bishops spoke out (admittedly, a far too low number), the laity was and is vocal and clear about their opposition to Obama...and will remain so. Let's not hang the courageous bishops out to dry on their own. No...I would be proud to stand with any of those who spoke out. And, again, they were in union with the HOLY SEE in this so-called "confrontation." Shame on Gian Maria Vian for his scandalous lack of journalistic integrity AND for falling for Obama's calculated rhetoric. Yes, faithful to the Magisterium American ROMAN Catholics thank him...he has really helped our cause over here. You can bet our dissident "American Catholic" brethren have been quick to arrogantly cram his published words in L'Osservatore Romano under our collective, orthodox noses.
Published by: Francis J. Donovan
Hicksville NY UISA 05/21/2009 12:33 PM EST
The protest was not against Obama. It was against the governing body at Notre Dame. It pitted Ccatholic against Catholic Bishops against faculty and trustees of Notre Dame. It was a family fight. Non-catholics should have left it to the Catholics. It has never been wise to intrude on a family fight.
Published by: Ken Ryan
San Diego, CA, USA 05/21/2009 12:27 PM EST
This is a terrible job of reporting. Rodari is contrary to the US Bishops and the POPE. Obama advises thzt we made a deal with the DEVIL by Compromising our values.
To report that OBama is not pro abortion is absolute nonsense and distructive to the American Catholic's.
Published by: ForLife
acworth, GA/USA 05/21/2009 12:24 PM EST
This editor is wrong. Obama has voted against a bill SB 230 to prevent partial-birth abortions. He has voted against requiring minors to notify their parents. He has a 100% score on his abortion record in the Senate for 2005 - 2007.
Published by: Dr. Jack Hockel
US 05/21/2009 12:22 PM EST
This is absolutely unbelievable. Does this woman have her head in the sand! Has she not familiarized herself with the statements that Obama has made? This is very discouraging coming from the Vatican.
Published by: Mark
Worthington, MN. 05/21/2009 12:17 PM EST
Vian is as fooled by what Obama say's as most Catholics who voted for him. DO NOT listem to what he says, look at what he does and has done! He is a master of deception. He is Pro-abortion to the highest extent.
Published by: Bob Rasmus
Oreana IL USA 05/21/2009 12:17 PM EST
“The first thing I’d do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That’s the first thing I’d do”
-Barack Obama, Planned Parenthood address, July 17 2007 Politicians would have us believe there are a thousand degrees between life and death. There aren't.
Published by: Nancy
NY/USA 05/21/2009 12:16 PM EST
He should be fired - what is he thinking - Open your eyes!
God bless America.
Published by: john
ny usa 05/21/2009 12:09 PM EST
I would love to know if this is coming from the Jesuits who runs Georgetown, and Notre Dame?
Published by: pete salveinini
Sunnyvale CA USA 05/21/2009 11:57 AM EST
YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING. Such naivete is enormous and unbelievable!What total lack of discernment! Obama's highsounding platitudes are AMBIGUOUS generalisations UNCONNECTED TO FACTS meant to "smooze" the audience at the moment ALLOWING EACH TO SUPPOSE THAT HE AGREES WITH THEM to generate a FEELING of likeability ALL THE WHILE ACTING IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO LIFE by ordering the monies of the government to actively pressure for elimination of anti abortion laws of many nations as a condition of foreign aid, and also JUST POSTPONING FOR A MORE OPPORTUNE MOMENT TO PUSH THE PRO-GAY AGENDA, eg, in the military, just for starters. To be so gullible to accept his indefinite words as agreeing with a pro-life understanding is simply BLIND!
Published by: David Orton
Stamford/VT/USA 05/21/2009 11:42 AM EST
We may not know what is in Obama's heart but we certainly can see how he has voted in the past and hear what he has spoken about abortion throughout the years. He has certainly promoted a very pro-abortion position. I think the editor-in-chief's comment that Obama "is not a pro-abortion president" is misleading at best. Whatever he may feel in his heart is of little consolation to what laws he is enacting.
Published by: Esther M Ferencz
Strongsville, Ohio 05/21/2009 11:40 AM EST
THIS is astounding in its lack of the FULLNESS of the CATHOLIC DOCTRINE on the SANCTITY of HUMAN LIFE, 'PRIMACY TO the LIFE OF THE UNBORN" ......WHO is this speaker for the VATICAN??? I have my doubts as to to his validity and his actual speaking for the POPE! BENEDICT has always held forth that LIFE, INNOCENT LIFE IS NOT TO BE KILLED ..END OF TALE! The miscontruing of ones own thought per this man from the Vatican is quite WRONG and speaks of this mans OPINE and NOT THE FULL UNDERSTANDING of CATHOLIC TEACHING on honoring a PRO ABORT ..PRO DEATH POL at ANY PLACE OF HIGHER LEARNING or INSTITUTION for that mattter!
Extremely DISHONORING and NOT UNIFING to the faithfill in the MATTER which is NOT UP FOR DEBATE! He actualy said Obaama was RESPECTFUL, my my how nice! He is so RESPECTFUL he signed into LAW taxpayers MONIES, whether they approve or not! TO KILL BABIES ALL OVER THE WORLD! GIVE ME A BREAK "VIAN" as Christ told us "YOU ARE EITHER WITH ME OR AGAINST ME" and "I WILL VOMIT YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH" do either of those remarks of Christ have any relevance to VIAN!????
Published by: marjer
paoli,pa,usa 05/21/2009 11:38 AM EST
Sorry but I disagree with the editor. This is the most pro abortion president that we have ever had. His speech at Notre Dame was a bunch of words with no meaning.
Published by: Nick
Palatine, IL U.S.A. 05/21/2009 11:29 AM EST
What most people don't know is that L’Osservatore Romano has a great deal of autonomy and is not actually written by the Vatican. This naiviety or intentional misleading of the newspaper regarding the Obama administration is not representative of the Vatican. Archbishop Burke's view is clearly more representative of the Vatican.
Published by: Janice R. Morton
Oboro, Ky. U.S.A. 05/21/2009 11:25 AM EST
This is why the church is in the shape it's in. People like Vian have there heads in the sand.
Published by: T. Bermpohl
Arlintgon, VA 05/21/2009 11:23 AM EST
Perhaps the Editor is not familiar with President Obama's support for partial birth abortion or his opposition to the Infant Born Alive Protection Act. Perhaps Vian should do a bit more research before asserting that Obama is not a "pro-abortion president".
Published by: Roy S. Tenn
Miami, Florida 05/21/2009 11:22 AM EST
This Vatican newspaper has lost it's credibility and I will never again subscribe to this paper.
Published by: Dan
US 05/21/2009 11:12 AM EST
In the first 3 days of his presidency Obama signed an order forcing taxpayers to pay for overseas abortions; he has committed the US to underwriting forced abortions in China; he has proposed revoking conscience rights for medical professionals who object to performing abortions; he has appointed radically pro-abortion figures to federal posts, most notably Gov. Kathleen Sebelius to the Dept. of Health and Human Services; he has allocated taxes to embryonic stem cell research...need I go on?
Published by: Gabriel
Chicago, Illinois 05/21/2009 10:42 AM EST
Editor Gian Maria Vian should wake up.
President Obama asks people to "keep an open mind" on abortion. Only true evil could ask to keep an open mind on the murder of millions of human beings. Don't be deceived. What if a man said "keep an open mind on pedophelia"? If a man fights to make pedophelia legal, that man is certainly "pro-pedophelia" regardless if he tells you he is not. Deception always comes through rationalization.
Published by: Mary Cormier
Chester,NH, USA 05/21/2009 10:42 AM EST
I don't understand how you can reason that Obama is not a pro abortion person/president.
Why did he pick and will pick for key positioons,only people who are not only abortion advocates but are militant advocates and why is he spending money to fund abortion and abortion related issues all over the world?
Published by: William J Miller
Trevose/Pa/USA 05/21/2009 10:33 AM EST
If we can't count on the Vatican to support the American Bishops for their upright position on the Obama Pro-Abortion record. who can we trust.
This Editor should be replaced immediately, he is either unknowledgeable about Obama's pro-abortion activities as soon as he was sworn into office, or HE is Pro-Abortion himself. Get rid of him !!! Now before he confuses the issue any more.
Published by: Camille Giglio
California 05/21/2009 10:32 AM EST
Editor-in-chief Vian obviously has no clue as to how American politics works.
Of course he is an ardent pro abort mouthing the tired, worn-out deceptive phrases of Planned Parenthood. For such a smart man one would think he could have said something original. What he was doing was signaling to the pro life community that we had better accept an unconditional surrender to killing some human beings for the good of society or face more arrests of priests and pro life citizens as opponents of the state.
Published by: Matthew Wade
Dallas, TX 05/21/2009 10:30 AM EST
Please ponder the following contrast:
"Men have a right freely and prudently to propagate throughout the State what things soever are true and honorable, so that as many as possible may possess them; but lying opinions, than which no mental plague is greater, and vices which corrupt the heart and moral life should be diligently repressed by public authority, lest they insidiously work the ruin of the State." - Pope Leo XIII, Libertas, 1888 "...it is 'appropriate to present other perspectives' to the readers so they can accurately judge 'international information.'" - Gian Maria Vian, 2009 Has Ms. Vian's precious principle "freedom of press" helped or hindered the "ruin of the state"?
Published by: Bevil Bramwell
Washington DC USA 05/21/2009 10:21 AM EST
How does one judge whether President Obama is pro death or not based on one speech? Have you looked at the executive orders that he has signed? Have you looked at the legislation that he has promoted.
Surely a veteran reporter knows that a smooth public speaker is going to use gentle phrases when he is talking to a largely pro-life audience!
Published by: James bitting
Weirton/WV/USA 05/21/2009 10:17 AM EST
Vian needs to spend a little more time paying attention to Obama's actions and less time on his decieving words. The Mexico City policy and his actions regarding the funding of embryonic stem cell research should be enough to label this president Pro-Abortion. He wants to keep the Catholic vote so he uses non-offensive speeches but when his pen touches paper he is pro-abortion all the way. He wouldn't even protect babies who survived abortion attempts in Illinois. It doesn't take a genius to figure out which side he is on. Ms. Vian I imagine you are exteremely busy but come on!
Published by: Dee Cervi
Pinedale, Wy, USA 05/21/2009 10:15 AM EST
How does one address such a weak reply coming forth from Vatican news. One needs to be very critcal of the Presidents position. Many American Catholics have lost their way...This article continues to lull them to sleep..Is the Vatican afraid to offend American Catholics? The Vatican should be the rock on which Catholism STANDS! The Vatican news should back the American Bishops who stood against this outrage toward life and dignity.
Published by: Sean Clougherty
Waterford, Mi, USA 05/21/2009 10:10 AM EST
Gian Maria Vian should be fired for not knowing that President Obama is as pro-abortion as any person can be. President Obama voted three times in favor of infanticide when he was a legislator in the State of Illinois. It is very pathetic how an editor can be so misinformed!!
Published by: larry stenger
augusta/georgia/usa 05/21/2009 10:04 AM EST
Please recall the parable of the two sons. One said he would work in the fields but didn't while the other said he wouldn't but did. Words are cheap. Obsama's actions have strongly supported abortion.
Published by: Maria Trujillo
Plantation/FL/USA 05/21/2009 09:56 AM EST
We should not be surprised. Pope Leo XIII did say that he had heard Our Lord tell Satan that he would be allowed greater influence over those who would serve him. Pope Paul VI mentioned Satan's "smoke" entering the Church through many fissures. This editor's resignation letter should be on Pope Benedict XVI's desk TODAY.
Published by: Rita
Seal Beach CA 05/21/2009 09:46 AM EST
It appears that CNA is now another "bogus catholic" voice; probably a George Soros front group. I no longer belive a word of it.
Published by: sharon
richmond, tx. 05/21/2009 09:43 AM EST
WOW! Just wow. They have been taken in too by Obama's talk. Obama talks well, he just doesn't mean what you think he means.
Published by: Andrew E. Malone
New Milford CT 05/21/2009 09:39 AM EST
This is so disheartening that words fail to capture the damage this dolt has done and he should be removed immediately.
Published by: Michelle mcCafferty
Gulf Breeze/Florida/US 05/21/2009 09:31 AM EST
If Presidnet Obama is indeed not a "pro-abortion" president I would say that his policies must not be his own. I must admitt that I was very surprised at his empty words of re-assurance to the contrary, given his very pro-abortion track record. Perhaps the Esteemed Editor might want to take a look at that record. Satan himself is the Father of lies. Remember that Apple, metaphoricaly speaking, of course.
Published by: Bob
Syracuse/NY/USA 05/21/2009 09:28 AM EST
I am glad these people and Bishops of today did not exist during the early Church or the persecutions. God has blessed his Church to not have this "caliber" of Catholic at a time where one had to make life and death decisions concerning their Faith.
Published by: John
Hayward, WI USA 05/21/2009 09:16 AM EST
If this newspaper believes that Obama is not pro-abortion, I wonder what he is smoking and if he's inhaling!
Published by: Donna VanderZanden
Hart, MI, USA 05/21/2009 09:13 AM EST
I believe President Obama is pro-abortion. If he wasn't I don't believe he would have signed into law the bills he did right after taking oath of office. I do not believe he is pro-life. His actions have not shown that he is.
Published by: Sam
Woodbury,CT.,U.S.A. 05/21/2009 09:13 AM EST
I hope the Vatican speaks into this! How can anyone say Obama is not pro abortion; how can such a remark be permitted by the Vatican newspaper? Not only is Obama the most rabidly pro abortion politician in our history, he also supports infanticide...our 'Catholic' Universities, for the most part, are no longer Catholic and l'Osservatore Romano no longer presents the teachings of the Church. how clever satan is...and, at this point, he is winning and being enabled to grasp the hearts, minds and souls of our young because the leadership in the Church will not stand strong against this battle with evil; 'disappointments' are proclaimed but they are sterile comments without consequeces. Shame!
Published by: Jan Epplin
Pinckneyville, Il USA 05/21/2009 09:07 AM EST
Another excuse-- you can't be for life and accept excuses
Published by: William Van Duzen
Sycamore ILL, U.S.A. 05/21/2009 08:54 AM EST
I heard Obama say on the radio when he was running for president, "if my daughter made a mistake and got pregnant I would not punish her with a baby." What exactly does he mean by that?
Published by: stephanie
Baltimore MD USA 05/21/2009 08:54 AM EST
Words and actions of this President change for the audience.
"Saying and doing" to build a culture of life isn't a priority of Mr. Obama. Your report is ambiguous as the president's speech.
Published by: Denis
South Bend, Indiana USA 05/21/2009 08:50 AM EST
Oh my God! You've got to be kidding... Nowhere is immune to the seduction. Throw the bum out. This guy has to go!
Published by: julian h
birmingham AL USA 05/21/2009 08:49 AM EST
What utter foolishness - he doesn't intend any NEW laws??? What other laws could he want??? He has advanced the abortion agenda, advocated infanticide and supported the satanic 'partial birth' abortion procedure, and uses money stolen from the US public to export abortion to other nations.
L'Osservatore needs to turn out the lights, lock the doors and close forever. No one needs another propaganda mouthpiece for the socialist / marxist / abortionist movement.
Published by: Tony R
USA 05/21/2009 08:47 AM EST
If the “smoke of satan” can enter the Church as a cardinal or bishop, why can’t he be a newspaper editor? After all, it seems that the media is contaminated with satan’s little helpers.
It’s just another example of how messed up the media, even the “catholic” paper is. Also, with this person as the editor, you can believe that the most newsworthy information that should come out of Rome is left on the editor’s floor never to be published. Have faith, satan’s time is short.
Published by: BDB
Birmingham, AL 05/21/2009 08:43 AM EST
This editor needs to be immediately fired.
Published by: Elaine Le Duc
De Pere, Wi U.S. 05/21/2009 08:37 AM EST
God help the leaders in the church who are mislead by the lies. If he is not for abortion why did he sign the bills legalizing it with our tax dollars. Sorry I don't buy, and pray for the man who wrote this to. blessings to you all,
Published by: joan miller
cincinncat, ohio usa 05/21/2009 08:29 AM EST
satain has surely entered our church decieving our priest bishops, cardinals and God help us our Popes. If we don't unite now and stand up united we will be domed. God help us come together to stand up for our faith and the unborn.
Published by: Carol
Leesburg, VA,USA 05/21/2009 08:26 AM EST
WHAAAT!? THE BUTCHER OBAMA has seduced yet another one!?! Even Hitler did not come close to murdering as many humans as Obama & his CULTURE OF DEATH co-conspirators. Do American Roman Catholics have NO ONE to rely upon? Even L'Osservatore Romano is gushing over this Liar!, this closet islamic jihadist who is systematically destroying America for mohammed? This is an international disgrace! I guess The Truth will only dawn upon your publication when there are NO remaining American subscribers--we'll all be martyred, or, pretend muslims!
Published by: Donna Tanzi
Prescott 05/21/2009 08:21 AM EST
With all due respect this type of support from Catholic officials is what has led so many folks astray. Catholics must have strong leadership and this is a mixed message. Look how many Catholics are in public office and almost all of them are pro-abortion.
Published by: Bernadette
Providence, RI, USA 05/21/2009 08:06 AM EST
I'm flabbergasted!!! Is the editor living on planet earth? Or is the real news just not making it out of this country. He is the MOST pro-abortion president we have ever had, supports partial-birth abortion, embryonic stem cell research etc. etc. etc. I am in shock!!!!
Published by: Marie Jalsevac
Collingwood 05/21/2009 07:58 AM EST
Sir,
Obama done it again. By his words, not by his deeds, president Obama managed again to electrify a mass of people at Notre Dame and have them believe in his words. Obama led the pro-choicer’s to believe that they were concerned and charitable members by giving them a picture of a stressful pregnant woman who had to make the difficult decision to destroy the life in her womb. Then he gave doubts to the pro-life group by suggesting to use greater dialogue and work on common ground to gain understanding to the facts of the suffering pregnant women. (not mentioning most abortions are only made for convenience) Let us not forget, Obama is a very clever politician who knows how to use his charm and speaking ability to manipulate a crowd towards his way of thinking. We all like to see a decline in abortion, but how to go about it remains the question. Marie Jalsevac 38 Raglan street Collingwood, ON L9Y 3Z1 Canada
Published by: Bob Allard
Florida, USA 05/21/2009 07:56 AM EST
Editor-in-chief Gian Maria Vian should be immediately fired from his job before he causes more scandal. The editor of the Vatican newspaper should reflect and promote the teachings of the Catholic Church. We don't need "other perspectives". We get enough of that from the secular media. We need a good Catholic to be the editor of the "official Vatican newspaper", not someone who will cause scandal like Vian did.
Published by: sara
chicago, mn 05/21/2009 07:43 AM EST
What is wrong with the vatican paper!
Look at Obamas actions! not the talk
Published by: myles keogh
Fort Riley Kansas 05/21/2009 07:42 AM EST
If Vian thinks Obama and this administration are not a disaster when it comes to issues protecting innocent life and promoting moral decline in this country then he is a fool. As George Weigel pointed out in his column in National Reveiw Obama is assisting those evil forces within the church that seek to destroy it. In the end they will not prevail but in the process a lot of souls will be lost.
Published by: Sue
Naugatuck, CT 05/21/2009 06:59 AM EST
I don’t understand why people are so easily fooled by words. This President is very good with words however a sales man or con man is also good with words. I will judge President Obama by his actions not his words. So far, his actions have not been pro-life but pro-abortion. How extreme he will be in his pro-abortion agenda a remains to be seen.
Published by: Joyce Fountaine
Long Pond TWP, ME, USA 05/21/2009 06:26 AM EST
It is disheartening to me that it is so easy for Obama to get positive feedback even from the Vatican. He can say whatever he wants, his actions belay any remarks he makes to pose as NOT BEING PRO ABORTION. Shame on you. Please read the transcripts of his speeches to pro abortion groups. He has promised to remove every restriction on abortion and he is making good on that promise. SHAME ON YOU!
Published by: John
England 05/21/2009 02:32 AM EST
Vian says that Obama isn't pro-abortion. Let me guess, she also thinks that Hitler was misunderstood?
It was a well-written speech, for sure, but everything that he has done regarding life is against the Church. Funding for overseas abortion, removing limits on needless embryonic stem cell experimentation and several other things I can't remember. In short, Obama's words fail to match his actions - the sentiment during his speeches differs to that of reality. As a Brit, I can tell my American friends that this is Tony Blair all over again. Fortunately you guys have term limits!
Published by: Sissy
Texas 05/20/2009 11:44 PM EST
Apparently this source hasn't taken the time to notice what Obama has DONE and what he has said prior to the ND obfuscation. His record speaks MUCH louder than his words.
They seem too ready to give kudos. Obama is probably basking in the glow of another success. He sure out one over on the Catholic church. Yeah, he sure sounds reasonable, doesn't he. Such good talk. The newspaper would have been wiser to withhold the pronouncement about his position until he begins to "walks the walk". Talk is cheap.
Published by: Marie
Chicago, IL USA 05/20/2009 11:41 PM EST
The President's position is clear: the "irreconcilable" positions held by those who lobby for and promote the murder of unborn human persons and those who defend the right of those persons not to be murdered simply have to agree to disagree and be nice to each other. Whoops - I guess defining the two positions in terms of one being good and the other evil (defense of human person = good; murder of human person= evil) broke the rule and demonized those who promote abortion...
Published by: Ray
Long Branch 05/20/2009 11:40 PM EST
Rodari must have a great big lack of virtue to consider that after all the laws passed by Obama, to make killing babies convienient and paid for by tax dollars, Rodari would say such a thing. Look not only to the laws Obama has made but also the horible nominations(all promoting killing babies)Obama has made to his administration.
Rodari has the responsibility to keep up on this information before making mistatements and should resign or be fired for such an inaccurate statement. Obama by his actions of laws and his appointments proves that he is a serious supporter of killing babies. Rodari does not understand his own faith.
Published by: Kristin
Minnesota,USA 05/20/2009 11:32 PM EST
I do not really understand this article--it seems to say two things at once. I did not listen to Pres. Obama's speech at Notre Dame but I heard excerpts. It sounded like he was saying what he thought the people at Notre Dame would want him to say. The fact is that he can say anything and sound loving and nice and he obviously is a loving husband and father. But his actions so far in the United States have been to reinstate funding for exporting abortion and to use taxpayer money for it. In my mind this is a pro-abortion action. Also, the action of increasing the amount of embryos that can be used in stem cell research is pro-abortion too--it just involves killing the human being outside of the mother's body instead of inside. If these actions are not pro-abortion actions then I do not know what would be. Anyone can say they do not like abortion and want it reduced, but if they increase funding for it, increase access to it and remove restrictions from it then how does that logically correlate? There does not need to be a confrontation about it. A human being is either alive or dead in all of these cases. The Catholic Church has always defended the innocent life of these humans--it is those who insist that it is somehow just and justifiable to snuff out the life of these humans that are bringing the argument and the confrontation. Procured abortion is violent and not at all loving or peaceful or natural.
Published by: Michael Robiolio
Darlington, WI, USA 05/20/2009 11:26 PM EST
It seems that President Obama has "said" one thing at Notre Dame but all of his "actions" say another -- that he IS a pro-abortion President. His entire record says this. If he changes now, many of us will welcome it. I am very surprised by the comments reported by the editor of the Vatican Paper. I hope he is right! Far better for that to be the truth and I to be wrong.
Published by: joe maz
poughkeepsie, ny usa 05/20/2009 11:15 PM EST
well now it is up to God. He has to do something. Hopefully He'll give the Pope grace to speak out directly.
Published by: Michael
Nebraska 05/20/2009 11:07 PM EST
Obama only told Notre Dame what they wanted to hear to salve their consciences. It is obvious from his voting record and his endorsements that his is pro-abortion. Obama will defend this fallacious "right" or move pro-abortion legislation forward when it is politically advantagous to do so. He will also remain quiet on this issue when it is to his advantage to appear "moderate." Apparently the editor of the L'Osservatore Romano needs to learn this lesson.
Published by: JLS
Riverside, CA, USA 05/20/2009 10:55 PM EST
Vian is certifiable.
Published by: Doug
Portland OR 05/20/2009 10:53 PM EST
God save us from our friends, our enemies have the decency to confront us.
Published by: Dantes
Butte MT 05/20/2009 10:44 PM EST
Let me get this straight. Obama favors abortion on demand and infanticide if a baby is delivered alive as a result of an abortion.
You wiley catholics...always changing the rules for political expediency.
Published by: Jeff Johnson
Collegeville, Mn 05/20/2009 10:36 PM EST
This is a scandal, and this editor needs to be replaced immediately.
He appears to know nothing about Obama, his staunch support of abortion rights, his promises to NARAL, Emily's list and Planned Parenthood, and his voting record. The blood of the unborn drips from his hands, and every thoughtful person can see it.
Published by: Jimmy Martello
Metairie, LA U.S.A 05/20/2009 10:23 PM EST
I feel completely betrayed by L' Osservatore Romano. It is a moral imperative Rodari be removed. Nothing short of that is acceptable. Rodari is a scandal to this member of the Faithful.
Published by: Dr. W. Luckey
Front Royal, VA 05/20/2009 10:09 PM EST
If the editor is truly a journalist, then she would know that the words of any politician should be matched by actions. So far, his actions shout pro-abortion, and his words fudge. Even his words at Notre Dame do not justify saying that he is not pro-abortion. I am shocked that OR would have such an incompetent editor!
Published by: Robert Matzinger
Taylor/Michigan/USA 05/20/2009 09:43 PM EST
Obama is "pro-abortion" and anyone who followed his campaign speeches and his speechs today knows that. He has never shied away from believing and supporting the view and practice that abortion is perfectly acceptable. And he is perfectly willing to fund it in this country and other countries. Obviously his tongue has totally lulled to sleep the Vatican newpaper!
Published by: K Karls
Bismarck/ND/US 05/20/2009 09:29 PM EST
Does anyone in the Vatican check historical precedent before deciding whether Obama's pro-abortion or pro-life? Look at his legislative history. He supports infanticide and partial-birth abortion. Look at his political appointments. They look like a Who's Who list for Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Rights Action League. Vian's opinion that Obama is not pro-abortion is without factual basis.
Published by: Nicholas
USA 05/20/2009 09:21 PM EST
I am confused.
Editor-in-chief Gian Maria Vian says "We must promote, always and at every level a ‘culture of life’." And yet he states active support for the most prominent mascot of the 'culture of death', going so far as to state "it is my own clear belief: Obama is not a pro-abortion president." His belief seems to contradict both the reality of Obama's extreme pro-abortion record (even voting to allow children born alive after botched abortions to be left to die without any legal consequences for those involved - effectively legal infanticide) and the statements from many Bishops of the Church. And this is an Editor-in-Chief of the Vatican's newspaper? I would have expected such a position to have been filled with one more in line with the teachings of the Church, but it seems I am mistaken.
Published by: dAVID LARSEN
scituate Mass. USA 05/20/2009 09:12 PM EST
President Obama's religious affiliation is Christian. I looked this up as I was curious. Maybe he'll become a Catholic convert?! This would grieve "Planned Parenthood"???!!!
Published by: Charlie Stuart
Brookhaven/MS/USA 05/20/2009 09:06 PM EST
"A confrontation that the Holy See neither approves nor disapproves. Simply observes." I seem to recall some words of my Lord's about spitting pout the luke-warm. Is this the same "simply observe" as was the practice for the sexual abuse scandals? A lack of strong and definitive stands by our American bishops and by the Holy See do nothing but encourage disregard of the laws of God and the teachings of our Lord and of our Church. Prophecy warns of the day men will not endure preaching of sound doctrine. So long as our shepherds fail to preach it we don't have to worry about enduring it.
Published by: Marie
USA 05/20/2009 08:26 PM EST
With all due respect, the editor-in-chief has yet to discover that Mr. Obama's abortion rhetoric does not match his actions. To me, this is more proof of just how seductive and manipulative our president's speech is. I'm cringing now in anticipation of the field day the press will have with this juicy headline and story.
Published by: Bob Mahaffy
Yorktown, VA, USA 05/20/2009 08:15 PM EST
Editor Vian must have listened to a different Obama speech from Notre Dame than I. But then, the obfuscation by Slick Obama was evident to not all, it seems. His actions, not his rhetoric, speak LOUDLY of his pro--aborrtion stance. Follow the dots, Sir.
Published by: Ingrid
detroit MI USA 05/20/2009 07:19 PM EST
The editor in chief obviously is not aware of President Obama's lying record. This is a typical misinformed European. It is a shame that this is going on in the Vatican's newspaper. He should have read your article on Archbishop Chaput's comments on the Notre DAme scandal.
This is disheartning for American Pro-lifers. Lord have mercy on our country.
Published by: Ed Barrings
Chicago, IL USA 05/20/2009 06:54 PM EST
Men often change when they achive the positions they desire. Then preservingtheir positions, for good or ill, dominate their thoughts. Obama may be observing the great evils abortions causes society, and is, from a totally different perspective thasn he ever experienced before. That is good. Kepp up the excellent informative work, all opponents of the murder of humans in the womb. Perhaps God will enlighten the heart of this young President.
Published by: Bill
Potomac, MD,USA 05/20/2009 06:46 PM EST
This is the Vatican newspaper? What am I missing? Mr. Gian, the Church does not consider abortion to be a disaster. It defines it as murder. Why doesn't the Pope abolish this newspaper?
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