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Evangelical Lutheran Church backs away from Christian chastity
![]() Lutherans at the ELCA convention reacting to the vote on sexuality
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.- The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) on Wednesday approved a new policy that no longer declares marriage as “the appropriate place” for sexual relations, but rather calls for “social trust” in associations that are “loving” and “committed.” One critic characterized the move as an embrace of moral relativism. The ELCA claims about 4.6 million members. Its numbers have declined by 1 million over the past forty years. The ELCA’s Churchwide Assembly, meeting from August 17 to 23 at the Minneapolis Convention Center, formerly said that marriage is “the appropriate place for sexual intercourse.” Such language is absent from the new policy, which says that heterosexual relationships are “best served through binding commitment, legal protections, and the public accountability of marriage.” “Some cohabitation arrangements can be constructed in ways that are neither casual nor intrinsically unstable,” the policy adds. The policy calls for “social trust” in relationships that are "loving," "life-giving," "fulfilling," "nurturing," and "committed." On the issue of homosexuality, the ELCA claimed that “consensus” does not exist and recognized four “conscience-bound beliefs” ranging from disapproval of all homosexual relations to honoring them as equally valid marriages. Mark Tooley, president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy (IRD), commented on the decision. "How sad that the ELCA no longer affirms the timeless Christian understanding of marriage. Instead it is touting secular psycho-babble about 'fulfilling' and 'nurturing' relationships. How will the church's young people interpret this tacit approval of at least some non-marital sex?" “In embracing moral relativism, the ELCA assembly has disregarded the Bible, the views of its own members, and the pleas of Lutherans in Africa and Asia. It has left the mainstream of U.S. and global Christianity, instead following other shrinking denominations like the Episcopal Church and the United Church of Christ towards internal division, accelerating membership loss, and cultural irrelevance.” During the Wednesday vote on the policy, a tornado struck the area around the convention center. It knocked the cross off the steeple of Central Lutheran Church, just across the street from the center. Washington Times reporter Julia Duin reported that during the storm ELCA President Mark Hanson read out loud Psalm 121 to calm those in the convention center. "We trust the weather is not a commentary on our work," said the Rev. Steven Loy, author of the statement on sexuality, Duin reports. CBS affiliate WCCO reported that John Piper, the pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis, characterized the tornado as a “gentle but firm” warning to the ELCA and everyone else to turn from “the approval of sin.” On Friday the ELCA assembly will vote on proposals that would allow for the formal blessings of same-sex unions and for the ordination of active homosexuals. Subscriber comments:
Published by: psalm
Detroit/MI 09/04/2009 05:40 PM EST
This is sad. This is what you get with a man made faith. For a religion whose sole rule of faith is the Bible (which is an obviously false teaching) how do they reconcile this twisted Theology? I guess just ignore the parts of scripture that you don't like.
Now homosexual clergy seems like a good idea? Wow. Well, with Protestantism, who is anyone to say they are wrong? The foundation of Protestantism is based on personal opinion and picking ones floavor of Christianity. No protestant can really tell another protestant they are wrong. Don't like what the Bible says about homosexuality? Just skip over those passages and presto...you can create your own version of Christianity!
Sad.
Published by: nancy
canada 08/26/2009 02:26 AM EST
This is so very sad indeed. Just how far the biblical truth can be altered to fit the new church of secular humanism is more than remarkable. It is almost unrecognizable. May the Lord lead us all back to His path and His will, not ours.
Published by: Josh R
Spokane WA 08/25/2009 02:50 PM EST
Proverbs 16:25
Published by: lloyd
USA 08/25/2009 09:01 AM EST
The bottom line here is that the bible has been thrown out the window so that men and women may do as they wish with no spiritual consequences. I am sorry. the bible is clear on this and any attempts to say otherwise is doomed. You cannot change GODS command to suit you.
Now I am not perfect, and I will not judge the actions of anyone in this world, as I have fallen short in my life as well. But we do need to recognize whats right in GODS eyes even if we screw up, so that we can strive to become closer to him. it is not about what we want. Man can change his bylaws, constitutions,and issue all the decrees he wants, Gods word is Gods word, and I for one am sad, not angered by this development. I will pray for this ex christian church.
Published by: scribe
USA 08/24/2009 10:11 PM EST
ECLA acts as those opposing Christ did prior to his Crucifixion. They were the religious powers, which saw the acceptance of Christ and Christ’s teachings as a threat to their reformed practices of their religion. Christ demonstrated this; entering the temple overturning tables of money changers and those conducting business in his Father’s House. ECLA and offshoots, from the Catholic Church, will not accept Church teachings, because practicing those teachings go counter to their personal preferences for their kind of catholic faith. Offshoots, labeled as Christian churches. Once a baptism, in accordance to established form, one is baptized as a member of Christ’s Church and where Christ directed the Patrimony of Peter and recognized as the holy Catholic Church. This church was established by Christ. It is this church into which they are baptized.
To go against the Church of Christ and Christ’s Patrimony to Peter is to attack Christ. The breaking down of the protesting churches is demonstrated by the need for these offshoots of Christianity to compete for the position of most popular American church and by offering more and more of what is condemned by the Catholic Church. It is called secularism. What would Christ do? Christ’s first miracle was at the wedding feast at Cana, Nazareth. scribe
Published by: Cathy
W Fargo ND USA 08/24/2009 08:13 AM EST
From the ELCA website:
Lutherans believe that human beings are fallible and that no one can achieve moral perfection. We believe that conscience is the power to make moral judgments about action but we do not believe that conscience is some sort of implanted, unerring message from God. Conscientious convictions can be wrong. However, even if one believes that the person with whom one disagrees is mistaken in her or his judgments, it is morally very dangerous to compel that person to act against her or his conscience. This is so partly because however deep one’s own convictions on the matter are, one must acknowledge that they, too, may be mistaken. But it is also so because to compel someone to act against conscience is an attack on their very integrity as a moral agent, and from their point of view it will be experienced as an attack on the right and the good on which they may be prepared to stake their own well-being."
Published by: Forteh
Yaounde 08/24/2009 06:50 AM EST
God have Mercy!
Published by: e. merrill
Thousand Oaks, CA 08/23/2009 05:09 PM EST
I am sorry to hear of your vote. Rewriting the Gospel to fit the needs of sin. 65 years a Lutheran. It seems like a time to find a new church....what a shame!!
Published by: DLL
scituate Mass 08/23/2009 01:53 PM EST
God should be served through obedience. Religion is not a social enterprise. Obedience to God is religious experience. The Catholic church takes a hit for teaching dogma. They are the only church that seems to insist on dogma. Chastity is dogmatic teaching. This is a fruit of the Catholic Church. The Catholic church is the only true church as it is governed by God and not the whims of common men. God is dogma.
Published by: N Waff
USA 08/23/2009 11:50 AM EST
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IMPOSTORS ===================== The apostle Paul in his second letter to Timothy. Paul says "men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." Paul calls these people "evil men and impostors."
Published by: Martin Obongita
NAIROBI 08/23/2009 08:11 AM EST
ROMANS 1:24-32
LUKE 17:28-30 We are in the last days and Scripture has to be fulfilled.
Published by: dAVID LARSEN
scituate Mass. USA 08/22/2009 09:20 PM EST
Why worship God when the real worship is ones own self worship. Self satisfaction with ones own incorrectness is not worship. Worship is to ask to be corrected and to be obedient in faith to our Lord Jesus Christ. Only the Catholic Church is sticking to dogmatic teaching that has been passed on in tradition to be lived in faith. If they stop teaching the faith accurately and become like these evangelical lutherans than they will also fail in the teachings of Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church must never stop being the one "True Church"!
Published by: William James
Sacramento/CA/USA 08/22/2009 08:14 PM EST
Mark Tooley is right. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has indeed
"left the mainstream of U.S. and global Christianity." In Phillipians 1:27 and Ephesians 4, Paul teaches our oneness as Christians: one mind, one spirit, one body.... ECLA is no longer one with us. To call ECLA "Christian" is to malign Christianity.
Published by: Arthur robins
NY 08/22/2009 06:27 PM EST
I would say the message from God could not be clearer!!!!!
Published by: Sr. Catherine Hagaba
Uganda 08/22/2009 07:38 AM EST
Is any body out there surprised at the unfolding trend in the Protestant churches? These and many reports I have read recently calls to mind a statement which the current Pope made a few years (do not recall exactly whether he was Pope yet). "the Protestant churches have decided to live with a minimum of faith." A deeply theological statement!!
Published by: Patrick
Santa Clara, California 08/21/2009 08:29 PM EST
As a lifelong Roman Catholic, and as a man who spent time in a major seminary discerning my call to priesthood in Holy Mother Church, I must applaud the writers at CNA for publishing a truly heinous report on what prayerfully happened in Minnesota today. Instead of supporting our brothers and sisters in Christ (possibly loving our neighbors in the Lutheran tradition), this article does not challenge their opinions from a Roman standpoint, but instead ridicules and points-and-laughs at their prayerful and very transparent deliberation, conversation and decision. In addition, to allude that a weather event was an act of God (though I understand that the writer is simply quoting) is to give credence to the idea and disrespect the Catholic understanding of God acting in our world. Though to the writers credit, a tornado did not hit their office upon publication; though neither did one hit mine.
Published by: stephen
south korea 08/21/2009 08:16 PM EST
wow! do they even read the bible at all? tickle the ears anyone.
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