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Notre Dame criticized for funding student travel to D.C. homosexual march
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.- The University of Notre Dame’s Student Activities Office is facing criticism for allowing a group of five students to use student activities funds to travel to a national homosexual political demonstration that advocated for same-sex “marriage” and related issues. The Office approved Notre Dame’s Progressive Student Alliance (PSA) request to use PSA funding to travel to Washington, D.C. for the National Equality March on the weekend of Oct. 9-11, the Notre Dame Observer reports. The March, organized by the group Equality Across America, says on its website that the march was for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered (LGBT) people “equal protection in all matters governed by civil law in all 50 states.” In the organizers’ view, this “one single demand” included freedom from harassment and discrimination, the right to serve freely in the military, the right to marry, and “the right to equitable healthcare, and the right to donate blood.” Organizers rejected a “piecemeal strategy,” saying they sought “one federal solution to full equality.” For the event the Notre Dame students marched two miles across the District of Columbia and then joined homosexual activists for a rally at Capitol Hill. PSA President, sophomore Jackie Emmanuel, told the Observer that the group initially had about 20 students signed up for the event but most could not participate due to midterms. "The fact that we were university-approved was surprising but it was a wonderful surprise," Emmanuel remarked. "The university hasn't always been entirely receptive in the past." She said she has felt “a slight tone of homophobia” from some areas on campus, but she expressed her belief that the student body is “generally supportive.” Colleen King, another student participant in the event, described herself as a “straight ally” and said attendees had “a real sense of frustration” with government inaction on the activists’ issues. She also reported there was “a sense of celebration.” She told the Observer that the group hung out in the homosexual neighborhood of the city and stayed with friends to minimize costs. King also said she believes homosexual rights are a social justice issue that should be addressed on campus. “I think it's hard to be gay at Notre Dame," she continued. "I wish there was more of a gay rights movement on campus." Patrick J. Reilly, President of The Cardinal Newman Society, was among the critics of the Student Activities Office’s decision to fund the students’ travel. “Faithful Catholics will ask whether Notre Dame has learned its lesson from the scandalous commencement ceremony last spring,” he commented in a press release. “What university seeking to reassure families of its Catholic identity would pay for students to attack the family and oppose Catholic teachings on marriage?” CNA contacted a University of Notre Dame spokesman on Friday but did not receive a response by publication time. Subscriber comments:
Published by: Br. Phillip
Saint Louis, MO 10/20/2009 08:10 PM EST
I am very happy for Notre Dame wanting to support the voice of reform within the Church. People are taking the Bible and traditions completely out of historical context. It is unhealthy for the Church to not dialogue about this, at least. I lovingly disagree with all of you who shun ND for doing something like this (as well as last spring). I am blessed that ND does not let form get in the way of the Spirit or ministry. I am blessed to know that ND is bold enough to say The Vatican does not equal the Catholic Church, indirectly, by allowing this act. Its time people do the difficult work of loving others as Christ loves. The doctrines and teachings may very well be the doctrines and teachings... but its time we start being realistic and pay attention to those scholars who are trying to tell us something about the context and reality of the Bible and the teachings found within. as well as the Church's teachings. There is a context and reason for everything - and I am not speaking spiritual, but, rather, political. Like it or not the Church is going backwards now because of wolves dressed in sheep's clothing in the Vatican, interested in their own political, self-important, fearful agendas. I know we like to think Christ is protecting the Church from error, but the truth is, the Church is not run by angels. But by humans. This is about theology of integrity. What it means to have a theology that takes into consideration all the voices of the people of God and does not limit God
Published by: psalm
Detroit/MI 10/20/2009 05:59 PM EST
Kathy,
I can't quite follow the logic in your post so I'll just comment on this.
"..It was hard to come to Mass every week never knowing when the hate speech would arise. But I go for Jesus now."
Are you serious? Hate speech? I'm sorry but that's an ignorant thing to say. Can you give me specific examples of this "hate speech"? The word of God is proclaimed during mass. Are you telling me that the divinely inspired word of God is hate speech? Do you even realize what you are saying?
Can you explain what the church actually teaches on homosexuality? Include the teaching on natural law. Taking those teachings, I would like for you to somehow draw out "hate" from them. I can assure you, the church teaches with love and not hate. Unfortunately the world we live in doesn't understand teaching truth as being an act of love.
Published by: debbie
Gulfport,MS. USA 10/20/2009 08:26 AM EST
This saddens me even more after the last scandal. Notre Dame is no longer a Catholic University. Someone, either the US Bishops or the Pope need to repremand the school. This is not Catholic Church teaching. You can show compassion for this group w/o supporting their beliefs. It goes against church teaching. The teachings of Christ. School funds should not have been used.
Published by: psalm
Detroit/MI 10/19/2009 09:43 PM EST
Folks, Those of you who pull the predictable "intolerance" card when it comes to church teaching on homosexuality, don't you realize you are contradicting yourselves?
The charges of intolerance and "judgmentalism" are so common today in a world drowning in moral relativism. Relativism and "non-judgmentalism" are self refuting concepts. Don't you see this? Think things through. Emotion need not trump reason.
Also, someone please show me exactly where the Church's official teachings on homosexuality are "judgmental".Be specific. Also, why do so many so called Catholics think it's perfectly acceptable to reject as wrong official teachings they don't personally agree with? Is not the Catholic Church the body of Christ? The church has been given authority by Christ himself to teach the truth. I don't think many of you understand what it really means to be Catholic. Cafeteria Catholicism is really believing in nothing at all. So why even bother?
Published by: james
tampa/FL 10/19/2009 06:51 PM EST
Radomysl Twardowski
Maybe, but if these so called Catholics fail to receive the proper discipline, I will have to disagree about Pope Benedict being a strong Pope. I am praying-- I am waiting! Holy Spirit, what are we to do when our leaders are leading so many over the cliff into the abyss from which there is no escape?
Published by: Michael
Lake Jackson 10/19/2009 06:33 PM EST
Kathy Johnson - "If it did, it was that there is still intolerance, arrogance, and small mindedness alive in Catholic circles..."
Is this the same intolerance shown by Jesus when he said to ostracize the offending brother who refuses fraternal correction - to treat the unrepentant brother as a heathen and an outsider? Is this the same arrogant, small-mindedness shown by Paul when he excommunicated a man in the Church of Corinth because he was sleeping with his step-mother? Or that he commanded the Church in Corinth to expel the immoral brother from their midst? Were Jesus and Paul lacking "true compassion and love for all their fellow men and women." Just checking.
Published by: Radomysl Twardowski
Bismarck, ND, USA 10/19/2009 02:31 PM EST
Francis, we have a strong and orthodox Pope.
Published by: Scott
South Bend 10/19/2009 01:40 PM EST
I guess there were no lessons learned after last spring's farce.
Published by: bjcass
mooresville,nc 10/19/2009 01:36 PM EST
There is a "go along to get along philosophy" that permeates the theology of some of our leaders of Catholic universities.Rational people of all faith backgrounds are not interested in discriminating against or demonizing gay people.On the other hand,we have no obligation to tacitly endorse or condone that life style.We also have no need to validate their sexual preference by providing a marriage certificate.Some Catholic parishes and colleges have effectively guided and ministered to gay people with compassion and love.They have not compromised Church teaching nor apologized for Paul`s clear and scathing condemnation of homosxual acts in Romans.
Published by: tracyq
Amherst, NY USA 10/19/2009 12:18 PM EST
"God will judge you as you judge your own brethren, self-righteous ones" Disagreeing with an action that is clearly not within what the Church believes, a fundamental right we have in the right to have and practice our Faith, does not make one judgmental NOR intolerant. Just because you don't agree with something, doesn't make you judgmental or intolerant. And if a student's money goes toward student fees, they should not have to endure the hypocrisy of it going toward something so clearly and blantantly contrary to the Church to which their university is supposed to belong, but clearly does not practice. God will be the judge in the end. What a sad time this is for this university, one that used to be such a great place, but is quickly becoming a joke, like so many of the educational establishments are.
Published by: William Dempsey
Arlington VA 10/19/2009 09:43 AM EST
No real surprise here to anyone who knows what's been happening at Notre Dame in recent years, most notably a steep decline in the percentage of Catholic faculty from 85% in the 80's to a bare majority today, with many of those dissident and nominal "Catholics." On the homosexual question, ND has been the poster school among the 16 (out of 225) Catholic institutions permitting a student production of The Vagina Monologues, an encomium to lesbian sex. For those interested in learning a great deal more, check the web site of Sycamore Trust, an organization of ND alumni and other friends of the University concerned about the alarming deterioration of the Catholic character of this tarnished icon of Catholic higher education
Published by: Patrick
Purcellville/VA/USA 10/18/2009 09:24 PM EST
ND a Catholic U? I think they're next in line for a peace prize. Fight On!
I doubt if this gets published - this website purports to encourage dialogue through these comments but fails to deliver. I'm looking at an ND advertisement right on this page - you all don't have the courage to post, like all too often today, $$ are driving your moral compus.
Published by: Eugenia
Portland 10/18/2009 07:56 PM EST
For this and so much more, I root against ND football, what they care about, but pray for the conversion of the faculty there.
Published by: James
Tampa/FL 10/18/2009 02:41 PM EST
The University named Notre Dame needs to be publicly rebuked again by the USCCB and the Pope. This can not go on when the Mother of our Lord Jesus and our Mother,is proclaimed in the very name of this school. This lack of grace is very disturbing!
Published by: Radomysl Twardowski
Bismarck, ND, USA 10/18/2009 01:08 PM EST
Any spirit that severs Jesus is of Antichrist.
Published by: Kathy
Torrington, CT, USA 10/18/2009 07:53 AM EST
A recent article by Rev. Childers, an evangelical, published in Newsweek, speaks about his own homophobia and hate. His mother asked him, "Do you think your views are Christ-like?" With some thought, the answer came back, NO. Full equal rights to citizens of the US are not denied to people because they commit adultery, get divorced, have abortions, beat their spouses, or do any number of terrible things. But full legal equality is something the church fights because being gay is sinful? One day I hope my church will embrace me instead of compare me to rapists and murderers. I haven't given up on the Church, though I did for a while. It was hard to come to Mass every week never knowing when the hate speech would arise. But I go for Jesus now. He is there, loving me, no matter what. And all the other sinners too. The March was for Equal Rights. Notre Dame should embrace that concept!
Published by: KFLO
Indianapolis, Indiana, USA 10/18/2009 07:49 AM EST
I'm proud of Notre Dame accepting equality.
Published by: Larry
Arkansas 10/17/2009 09:22 PM EST
Given recent events at Notre Dame which went against Church teachings, we should have expected this. When are our Bishops going to do something about the leadership of this University? They are an embarrassment to the many faithful who love God and the Roman Catholic Church.
Published by: STEVEN
ROSEVILLE CA 10/17/2009 09:20 PM EST
"catholic" universities in America are causing scandal and have been for decades. Our USCCB needs to draw a "line in the sand" with these rogue institutions. I humbly suggest starting with the Catechism, and the non-negotiables as outlined in Catholic Answers Voters Guides.
Lord Have Mercy!
Published by: torqueflite
Colorado 10/17/2009 07:27 PM EST
God will judge you as you judge your own brethren, self-righteous ones. As Catholics, you are persecuting the gay people of your own faith. Were you not so contemptible and potentially dangerous in your hatred and hypocrisy, you would be pitiful and even laughable.
Published by: Kathy Johnson
St. Louis, Mo 10/17/2009 07:24 PM EST
I understand questioning the school's funding of the marchers, although I personally believe it was done with true charity. But I'm confused by Mr. Reilly's comment. He assumes that it is a given that Notre Dame had a lesson to learn from the commencement. If it did, it was that there is still intolerance, arrogance, and small mindedness alive in Catholic circles -- but that's not a surprise as Catholics have human faults, too. (And yes, I know about the Bishops -- and what the majority of Bishops and the Vatican had to say: Nothing.) The real surprise is that Mr. Reilly and his ilk have not learned that democracy and Catholicism not only can live together, but our call to respect all -- ALL -- demands it. I will pray for these fearful, angry souls that they may find true compassion and love for all their fellow men and women.
Published by: kathy
chicago 10/17/2009 06:54 PM EST
If students misappropriated funds they should be expelled.
Published by: Francis
Wareham MA 10/17/2009 04:42 PM EST
The secular heresy just keeps coming from Notre Dame! Just another example of the modernism and apostasy from John Jenkins and the rest of the Notre Dame crew. These people should not only be fired, but also be defrocked and excommunicated, along with these modernist and liberal "bishops" who like these modernist "priests" have no intention of upholding the dogmas of the Catholic Church. Sadly, as we all know, this won't happen until a strong and Orthodox Pope is elected.
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