ABC interview ‘sensationalized’ Theology of the Body, Christopher West says
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Christopher West

.- Christopher West, a Catholic speaker on Catholic sexual ethics and the Theology of the Body, says the recent ABC television segment about him made understandable but "sensationalized" misrepresentations and distortions. In the interview, West was described as having as his "two big heroes" Pope John Paul II and Playboy magazine founder Hugh Hefner.

On Thursday ABC News published a story and a seven-minute video segment on its interview with West, describing him as "not your average sex therapist."

"As Christians, we are desperately in need of a renewed vision of our sexuality," West said. "The union of man and woman itself is meant to be here on planet Earth an image, a foretaste, a little glimmer of the eternal ecstasy that awaits us in heaven."

ABC named as West’s "two big heroes" Pope John Paul II and Hugh Hefner, reportage West later disputed.

"I actually see very profound historical connections between Hugh Hefner and John Paul II," West told ABC, which reported that West believes each man rescued sex from prudish Victorian morality.

According to ABC, West said Hefner had a "yearning," an "ache" and a "longing" for love, union and intimacy.

On the other hand, West said Pope John Paul II took the sexual revolution further in his "Theology of the Body" which taught that sexual love has been central to God’s plan for mankind.

West has sold more than a million copies of his books and more than 3 million CDs. Attendees at his retreats told ABC his talks "revolutionized" their marriages and their views of their spouses.

"Christians must not retreat from what the sexual revolution began," West said in a lecture excerpted by ABC. "Christians must complete what the sexual revolution began."

"We have to bring God and sex back together," he added.

CNA spoke with West in a Friday interview to follow up on ABC’s report, asking him to give his opinion on the report and to explain his view of the Theology of the Body and Christian marriage.

"The Theology of the Body is the vision of what it means to be human," West said. "The Theology of the Body teaches us that our bodies as male and female are a sign here on earth of the eternal mystery of the Trinity. Ultimately the mystery of the Trinity is revealed through Christ and the Church.

"Pope John Paul II says that, right from the beginning, the holy nuptials of man and woman are a primordial sacrament, a foreshadowing, a sign that points us to the love of Christ and the Church. Love is sacramental, revelatory."

He said it was "very important" to understand that the Theology of the Body is not only for married people.

It is "for everybody, married, single, or consecrated celibate, because it provides a vision for us of what it means to be human. That was very lacking of the story."

"The story [by ABC] sensationalized some of the sexual aspects," West said.

"Certainly the Theology of the Body provides a beautiful vision for us of marital love. But to reduce the Theology of the Body to its teaching on sexual morality, or to some kind of Catholic version of a sex manual is terribly missing the mark."

He said the ABC correspondents were generally "very professional" and "very interested" in giving a fair hearing to the Theology of the Body. However, the two hour interview and four hours of speaking footage had to be reduced to a 7-minute interview.

"I can understand why they put it together the way they did. They did a decent job," he told CNA, but his concerns prompted him to encourage people to read his articles and books for "the very important context."

Responding to ABC’s characterization of Hefner and Pope John Paul II as "heroes," West said the statement was not given proper context.

"I never said Hugh Hefner is a hero, never," he remarked, explaining that Hefner said he started Playboy as a personal response to the hurt and hypocrisy of Americans’ Puritan heritage.

"The point I was making with ABC was that we as Catholics agree with Hefner’s diagnosis of the disease of Puritanism, a fearful rejection of the body rooted in heritage of Manicheanism. Sadly, that very important point did not come out in the interview."

"Let the record stand very clearly: the pornographic revolution that Hugh Hefner inaugurated, the medicine that he suggested, proves to be in many ways more dangerous than the disease itself.

According to West, Hefner has remarked that he has never "found the love that’s satisfying."

"The man is just going to the wrong menu to feed the hungry," West said.

"We disagree radically, in that we do not agree with his remedy of the disease. Pope John Paul II provides precisely the proper remedy to a ‘Manichean’ or ‘prudish’ Puritanism."

In West’s view, Pope John Paul II was in agreement with Hefner that the body and human sexuality must not be rejected.

"The very, very important distinction is that Hefner began a sexual revolution of indulgence, of indulging libido, without concern for a proper understanding of the true dignity of the human being and of human love."

While the Sexual Revolution started people talking about sex, this conversation must be brought "into the glorious mystery of why God made us this way in the first place."

"We must redeem the body, redeem sexuality," he remarked. "That’s what I mean by ‘completing the sexual revolution.’ Only Christians can do that because of the work won through the bodily death and resurrection of Jesus Christ."

The Sexual Revolution led people away from a "prudish" rejection of the body, but also led people to "wallow in the mud."

"Now we need to take a bath," he told CNA.

These points were made in his interview with ABC but were cut for the section that was broadcast, West reported.

He added that Pope John Paul II "rescued" sex both from the "fearful Puritanism" in which many Christians are raised, but also from "the pornographic distortion of sex that is rampant in our culture."

West said a hunger for the true understanding of the human body and sexuality is implanted by God, but charged that Christians have placed themselves on a "starvation diet" that leads other hungry people to the "fast food" of pornography.

"Why was Hugh Hefner a successful ‘evangelist’? Because eating fast food is a lot better than starving to death," West said. "What Pope John Paul II does is, he shows us that Christianity is considered an invitation to the banquet of love that truly satisfies."

West also disavowed the characterization that he sees the Bible as "the ultimate sex guide," saying he never made such a statement and that the phrase can be seriously misunderstood by "our pornographic culture."

"The Bible provides for us a guide to learn how to love," West told CNA. "Our culture has such emphasis on the mere physical mechanics of sex… the Bible is not a sex guide in that context. Rather, it is an ode to love, an invitation to love as Christ loves."

He also issued a response to the interview on his web site, saying that he is not a sex therapist but an educator, author, lecturer, and faculty member of the Theology of the Body Institute.

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Published by: Christina
Neenah, wi 05/15/2009 12:51 PM EST
Perhaps Christopher did the interview trusting God could control the outcome. Doing the interview is an answer to Pope John Paul II "New Evangelization". I know Lily personally (Dr. Alice) and I know Christopher personally. I thank God for a woman who has shared her and her husbands insights into our Catholic faith that are so deep that they remind me of Theologians. I thank God for Christopher who is able to understand that you can not feed the steak of Theology to a baby. Perhaps it is because he will awaken many to this teaching that they will then seek her work to further comprehend it on a deeper and more mysterious level.
Published by: Desmond
Arvada, CO USA 05/14/2009 02:52 PM EST
Rate: Good
My problem with Christopher West's approach is not necessarily the vulgarity issue. It is his occasional tendency to present his own ideas - as if they are textual comments out of 'Theology of the Body'.

Personal Example: My wife and I attended one of his seminars in the Denver area.

At one point she she quietly asked me, 'I can see from your face something is wrong -what is it?'

My response was that Christopher was sometimes presenting his personal interpretation of what John Paul wrote - without identifying such as a personal interpretation.

Subsequently, Christopher said that despite Paul's teaching that spouses should not turn each other down vis-a-vis the marital act - that was not the case.

His explanation was that when a spouse says "no" - it doesn't mean "no". It means "later". LOL

First, where did JP II say that in any way in TOB. The answer is 'nowhere'. JP II never ever hinted at such a teaching in interpreting St. Paul.

Christopher's Scriptural exegesis was problematic at best. But the worst of it was - through silence he gave the impression JP II had written it.

That's a no-no, independent of the Pope or papal document being discussed.
Published by: Bob
New York, NY, USA 05/13/2009 12:46 PM EST
I haven't seen the interview, but I've read some of West's work. He's talking about sex from what he sees as a valid Catholic point of view, which is more than I ever experience in Church. In going to Mass almost every day in may different places I have never heard anything about the Church's teachings on sexual morality. Shame on the Catholic clergy for totally avoid this subject in the pulpit! Thank God for West for getting some of us aware of how we're supposed to be thinking and acting.
Published by: Brian Mershon
Greenville, SC 05/13/2009 08:13 AM EST
As a devout Catholic whose profession is media relations, the result of this interview was much better than I had hoped when I heard Mr. West was going on mainstream TV.

Seven minutes is a LONG interview in today's day and age, and the media did not sensationalize nor distort Mr. West's message. Seven minutes needs to be broken down into headlines and those cannot capture all of a multi-hour interview. Period.

The bad decision here was for Mr. West to decide to go forward with the interview.

Those who are not media savvy have no idea what they are getting into. YOU do not control the message. The media is not there to be YOUR PR vehicle.

The fact is that Mr. West has hooked himself to Pope John Paul II's name, and although there may be some good things that come from his seminars, I would state unequivocally that as fallen men, we are NOT in the original pristine state of Adam and Even with peternatural gifts and original justice. We have original sin, and therefore, many of the things Mr. West says and writes are "offensive to pious ears." Those with innocence do not need to be scandalized by Mr. West's presentations or writings--PERIOD!
Published by: Lucie
Australia 05/13/2009 01:09 AM EST
Let's all pray that God opens people's minds and hearts to His message.

Let's trust in Him and not worry about what has been done but pray for the future.

Thank you Christopher for your good work and intentions.
Published by: Louie Verrecchio
Hampstead 05/12/2009 09:22 PM EST
"To Louie: you are clearly misunderstanding Christopher’s point. He wasn’t so much drawing parallels between Hefner and JPII as he was contrasting the two."
- Benjamin Williamson

No, Benjamin, I am reading West's very own words to CNA, a friendly source if there ever was one:

"The point I was making with ABC was that we as Catholics agree with Hefner’s diagnosis of the disease of Puritanism..."

It is needlessly clever to imply that Hefner and Catholicism agree even in a limited way with one another concerning human sexuality. He can make the point about sexuality being God's gift, and the human body being a reflection of God's glory, all without appealing to the likes of Hugh Hefner.

I am sure West is doing much good, but he needs to take care not to get too impressed with his own cleverness. It clearly backfired here, and it is entirely avoidable in the future.
Published by: Mike McLaren
Danville, Ca 05/12/2009 10:55 AM EST
It's interesting how many of us distrust the main street media, yet we were so quick to believe them in this case and critize Mr. West. There are even those who refuse to now accept his expination. Let's not forget that beam in our own eyes folks.
Published by: Bob
Gulf Breeze 05/12/2009 08:44 AM EST
I didn't like the way the report came off but have to agree with those who said any exposure is a good start. This message is the key to ur survival and the sooner people hear of it and check it out the better. Christopher is awesome teacher of JPII's annointed message.
Published by: Clayton Emmer
Saint Paul, MN 05/12/2009 06:37 AM EST
I was grateful that West had the corrections posted on the website that night.

I added a few thoughts on my blog as well.
Published by: Steve
Plano 05/11/2009 04:43 PM EST
Rate: Regular
West allowed a 7 HOUR interview to get 7 minutes of air-time.

He's done enough media to know that 7 hours for 7 minutes means the editors will create whatever story they want.

Either he's such a narcissist that he thought he could control the message given the details, or he was primarily interested in the publicity for his material and didn't care.

I don't see how a positive spin can be put on what West chose to do and say.
Published by: Kathy
CA USA 05/11/2009 03:52 PM EST
Thanks for the clarification on this story. I believe most people know the secular media portraits interviews a little different on how they actually are by cutting important snippets and adding their commentary. Hopefully enough saw the piece to get an interest in this important teaching and research it to get the true meaning.
Published by: Teri
Austin, TX 05/11/2009 03:33 PM EST
Thank you, Christopher, for clarifying in this article and for the work you are doing. My the Holy spirit guard your every thought, word, and deed.
Published by: Jack
Vancouver Canada 05/11/2009 03:11 PM EST
ABC is in the SHOW-Business. Don't worry about he spin they gave it, it will work to your advantage regardless of their skew.

Exposure was good, and TOB traffic must be up due to it.

Chris, in show business ya gotta remember: "ANY Press is GOOD Press".

Send ABC a Thank you note.
Published by: Christine
Hillsborough, NJ 05/11/2009 02:39 PM EST
First of all, the news ALWAYS has a slanted perspective, whether it's abc or EWTN - it's the nature of media today.

Second, even if the comments were misrepresented, just think - it's a way in the door - and God can work with whatever's out there. Maybe it takes something a little sensationalized to get people to want to find out more about the Truth... give the culture a chance!
Published by: tour86rocker
Houston, TX USA 05/11/2009 02:23 PM EST
Thank goodness for this response from Christopher. I was worried when I read that the interview was acceptable to him. I was beginning to feel duped by his school of thought. I'm glad he hasn't gone off the deep end!

We should, nonetheless, take this as a very important reminder of some advice Christopher gives us: we must read John Paul's Theology of the Body FOR OURSELVES in the Pope's OWN WORDS. Christopher cannot help but be fallible.
Published by: Benjamin Williamson
Texas 05/11/2009 01:41 PM EST
To Louie: you are clearly misunderstanding Christopher’s point. He wasn’t so much drawing parallels between Hefner and JPII as he was contrasting the two. If you read any of Christopher’s books or have heard any of his talks you would understand the point he is trying to make: both men knew that the angelistic Puritanism was the wrong message, but one sought to indulge his sexual desires while the other promoted the true purpose of sexuality and that God created it good.

If you knew Christopher you would understand that this was not some attempt to gain fame and fortune for himself, but an attempt to bring a much-needed message to a wider audience. Every person, no matter who they are, can benefit from this message that helps us to understand what TRUE LOVE is—Who true love is—and that we are loved beyond measure by God and are called by Him to love. I am sure Christopher had considered the risk of doing such an interview, and though some things were misconstrued in the segment, I believe that it will at least encourage some people to look into TOB who never would have had the opportunity to hear about it before.

May we seek to be understanding in this matter; I encourage you, be slow to anger and rich in mercy. Let us applaud Christopher for what he has done to bring this message to mainstream America and recognize that like the rest of us, some things are beyond Christopher’s control.
Published by: Pete McCabe
NJ 05/11/2009 01:41 PM EST
CNA,
Thank you for posting this follow-up interview. You've done a good job of filling in the gaps that were left in the ABC editting of the interview. Let us pray that many will have ears to hear.
Published by: Benjamin Williamson
Texas 05/11/2009 01:40 PM EST
I wish CNA could have produced the interview for ABC... then it would have turned out right!

I have met Christopher and read a few of his books, so I was able to understand how ABC may have misunderstood/misconstrued some of what he had said to them, nonetheless I have to say that I was worried the message might become distorted by people who are not as in touch with TOB as the rest of us.
Published by: Stephanie
Sioux Falls/SD/USA 05/11/2009 01:32 PM EST
When I watched the ABC segment I shuttered a few times at what they were portraying because I'm very familiar with Christopher West's writings and have heard him speak before as well. I think that Christopher probably had something very profound to state with his comment about Hugh but of course the liberal media is going to blow it totally out of proportion. That's not unusual...they do that with everything. Thank you Christopher for being brave and for delivering such a profound message to the world. God bless.
Published by: David Casper
Texas 05/11/2009 01:28 PM EST
My girlfriend and I are both avidly interested in the Theology of the Body, and I have personally met Christopher West and been involved in one of his lectures. We both felt that both Christopher and the TOB in general were misrepresented and distorted by Nightline's story - they called him a "sex therapist"! It is worth noting that West's parallel between JP2 and Hefner is an integral part of his talk, and probably not something he himself brought up in the interview, but rather something they asked about. The interviewer clearly did not try and gain any real understanding of the material - he just used the word "sex" as much as possible and seened rather intrigued by the thought that "one of those weirdo Catholic people" (as we are viewed) could and would use the word "orgasm" in public.
Published by: Jim
Virginia 05/11/2009 12:23 PM EST
ABC = "Always Bashing Catholics"
Published by: c.w.
Wichita, KS USA 05/11/2009 10:07 AM EST
Do you think maybe someone up in the ABC hates practicing Catholics? I am not sure why so much ABC would like bashing our faith.
Published by: Ricky
Miami, Florida, US 05/11/2009 08:26 AM EST
As always, the media corrupts what is pure because only dirt sales. Mr. West is not an advocate of sex but rather of the expression of true sexual 'love' which is not the selfish, grabbing and narcisistic love we observe in today's culture of death. Sex today is a one way street instead of the exchage of self donation in love that is suppossed to be and as it was preached by Christ over 2000 of years ago!...
Published by: Mary
New York 05/10/2009 04:30 PM EST
I'm glad West made these clarifications, because when I saw the Nightline segment I was very dismayed. They made it look like Hugh Hefner was on some sort of par with Pope John Paul II. I felt the emphasis was over-sensationalized and actually hurt West's message.
Published by: susie
il 05/09/2009 08:53 PM EST
west should not have gone there, that was not smart to say that.
Published by: Sharon
Elgin/IL/USA 05/09/2009 04:20 PM EST
Thank you for clarifying your views. I saw the ABC interview and was somewhat perplexed and slightly disturbed, even though I felt ABC was probably taking things out of context and sensationalizing the story. Being Catholic, I was somewhat familiar with Christopher West's seminars and Pope John Paul II's "Theology of the Body". A conservative friend from the Eucharistic Adoration Chapel we attend told me the seminars were wonderful. I must say, however, that had this interview been of someone from a non-Catholic faith, my eyebrows would have remained "raised", fearing another "cult-type" preacher. ('just being honest.)
Published by: dAVID LARSEN
scituate Mass 05/09/2009 03:41 PM EST
Hugh Hefner is a perpetual adolescent who is afraid to get old. He is at best "different",no revolutionary, just typical of how sin makes an individual ordinary. His version of sex is recreational and always has been. Sex was never sacred to Hefner and he has always balked at that idea.
Pope John Paul 2 was a pure,perfect and holy mind and there is no comparison to Hefner. To our former and magnificent Pope,sex was sacred,pure and holy,meant to give glory to God. His work on Theology is a perfect perspective on sex and marriage. Everyone should read it as it puts Masters and Johnson to shame.
Christopher West is an outstanding individual. He is trying to bring the theology of the body to all the young people that he can. I have read his book. He is very helpful in bringing Pope John Paul 2's ideas to the public in a simple and straightforward way.
The press has to be seemingly objective in reporting varied and different viewpoints. They are like many people as they get what people say and write and they quote them out of context. This is sometimes deliberate so that they can dispute what was said or written.
Published by: Van Hunter
Cedar Crest, NM 05/09/2009 02:31 PM EST
I have listened to Chris many times and he does a very good job of explaining JP II's Theology of the Body. I only wish the media would take this truth seriously. I could help lift our society up out of the sewer. There is great joy here! Pay attention!
Published by: Louie Verrecchio
Hampstead 05/09/2009 01:53 PM EST
Rate: Good
Careful, Christopher; you tried to make a clever point by appealing to an icon of immorality, as though Light somehow was to be found there and it backfired. What were you thinking? Don't let fame and fortune distract you from the fact that you are being called to be a messenger; not a media darling.

The reason the point was misunderstood is pretty simple; it was an incredibly stupid idea in the first place.

Rather than continuiing to belabor the argument to make it appear reasonable, you would do well to simply admit that it was a very bad idea to try to draw parallels between JPII and Hugh Hefner's view of human sexuality in the first place, apologize for getting too cute and do better next time.
Published by: George
Holland/MI/USA 05/09/2009 11:34 AM EST
It states in the Lords word,"That His Choosen shall be MISLEAD." Watching this on televisison was to me just another indication of the word manifest in our lives.
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