Denver archbishop slams Pelosi on Church teachings and abortion
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Rep. Nancy Pelosi / Archbishop Chaput

.- In a statement eloquently titled “On the Separation of Sense and State,” the Archbishop of Denver, Charles J. Chaput, O.F.M. Cap., and his Auxiliary Bishop James D. Conley harshly criticized Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, for giving a confusing view of the Catholic Church’s teaching on abortion, during a Sunday interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“Catholic public leaders inconvenienced by the abortion debate” –says the statement- “tend to take a hard line in talking about the ‘separation of Church and state.’  But their idea of separation often seems to work one way.” 

“In fact, some officials also seem comfortable in the role of theologian.  And that warrants some interest, not as a ‘political’ issue, but as a matter of accuracy and justice.”

Archbishop Chaput’s statement recognizes Pelosi as “a gifted public servant of strong convictions and many professional skills” but adds that “regrettably, knowledge of Catholic history and teaching does not seem to be one of them.”

During the Meet the Press interview on August 24, Pelosi responded to a question about when human life begins by saying that “as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time.  And what I know is over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition . . . St. Augustine said at three months.  We don't know. The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose.”

The Archdiocese of Denver argues that since Speaker Pelosi claims to have studied the issue “for a long time,” “she must know very well one of the premier works on the subject, Jesuit John Connery’s Abortion: The Development of the Roman Catholic Perspective (Loyola, 1977).

The statement recall’s Connery’s conclusion: “The Christian tradition from the earliest days reveals a firm antiabortion attitude . . . The condemnation of abortion did not depend on and was not limited in any way by theories regarding the time of fetal animation.  Even during the many centuries when Church penal and penitential practice was based on the theory of delayed animation, the condemnation of abortion was never affected by it.  Whatever one would want to hold about the time of animation, or when the fetus became a human being in the strict sense of the term, abortion from the time of conception was considered wrong, and the time of animation was never looked on as a moral dividing line between permissible and impermissible abortion.”

The Archdiocese’s statement also quotes “the blunter words of the great Lutheran pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer.”

Bonhoeffer, a strong critic and later victim of the Nazi regime in his native Germany wrote that “the destruction of the embryo in the mother’s womb is a violation of the right to live which God has bestowed on this nascent life. To raise the question whether we are here concerned already with a human being or not is merely to confuse the issue. The simple fact is that God certainly intended to create a human being and that this nascent human being has been deliberately deprived of his life. And that is nothing but murder.”

Archbishop Chaput’s statement continues, explaining that, “ardent, practicing Catholics will quickly learn from the historical record that from apostolic times, the Christian tradition overwhelmingly held that abortion was grievously evil.  In the absence of modern medical knowledge, some of the Early Fathers held that abortion was homicide; others that it was tantamount to homicide; and various scholars theorized about when and how the unborn child might be animated or ‘ensouled.’  But none diminished the unique evil of abortion as an attack on life itself, and the early Church closely associated abortion with infanticide.  In short, from the beginning, the believing Christian community held that abortion was always, gravely wrong.”

Archbishop Chaput also highlighted that “we now know with biological certainty exactly when human life begins.  Thus, today’s religious alibis for abortion and a so-called ‘right to choose’ are nothing more than that – alibis that break radically with historic Christian and Catholic belief.”

“Abortion kills an unborn, developing human life.  It is always gravely evil, and so are the evasions employed to justify it.  Catholics who make excuses for it – whether they’re famous or not – fool only themselves and abuse the fidelity of those Catholics who do sincerely seek to follow the Gospel and live their Catholic faith,” the statement adds.

Finally Archbishop Chaput recalls that “the duty of the state and its officials is to serve the common good, which is always rooted in moral truth.  A proper understanding of the ‘separation of Church and state’ does not imply a separation of faith from political life.  But of course, it’s always important to know what our faith actually teaches.”

Read the full statement at:  http://www.archden.org/images/ArchbishopCorner/ByTopic/onseparationofsense&state_openlettercjc8.25.08.pdf

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Published by: Kevin
Rochester NY 02/22/2009 07:06 PM EST
I am an atheist.

I completely agree with the Catholic dogma: Abortion is Murder.

Good for you in standing up for your beliefs, and holding your believers responsible!
Published by: Gina
Los Angeles,CA, U.S.A. 09/10/2008 11:41 AM EST
What disrespect for the church. Pelosi and Madonna are sad examples of what happens when society is dumbed down, resulting in incompetent spokespeople pandering to its lowest common denominator. At low points in history, inferior elements often gain the ear of malcontents, enabling those like the far left, and it's shallow clique of celebrities to gain the attention of mindless lemmings who will blindly follow their counterparts like a stampeding herd, thugs in a lynch mob, or lost souls who worship a golden calf. Since these types have no real substance, luckily their existence is usually short lived.
Published by: 5-Pillar Scribe
Minaret, FL, US 08/27/2008 12:22 PM EST
Even the Catholic Church has had enough of this secularist, political-elitist stance. Religious practicing people from all walks would do well to understand that a clear message is being brought down by the Archbishops: "Your political persuasion and power can get you only so far. This castigation is a test (jihad) for the two Dems to seek more into their inner conscience and determine what is worth fighting for more: their ego-driven desire for status, or the desire of their souls to do what their God expects of them?" This message should apply to all people of religions living in secular nations.

For the past decades secularism has been chipping away at religious belief, and yes, by design. I wonder if these two politicians have the gall to call these Archbishops 'extremists' or 'fundamentalists,' as Muslims have these titles attributed to them simply for wearing a head scarf or growing their beard.

Muslims in the U.S. were once attracted to the Republican Party, they espoused a belief in God (even if it wasn't always practiced). The right and obligation to create and maintain strong family ties was more congruent with the anti-gay and anti-abortion stances of the right.

Now that a certain group within the 'right' has wronged the world and the nation on many levels; Muslims and believers of other faiths seem more attracted to the Democrats. The fact is, both Republicans and Democrats are of the same secular coin.
Published by: bilbos
Mich 08/27/2008 07:10 AM EST
Pelosi is deserving of her 9% rating. That is why 91% of us know what an ABSOLUTE IDIOT she is. If she keeps it up even the other 9% will know.
Published by: 39Winks
Longmont, CO 08/26/2008 11:42 PM EST
One of the reasons I moved here recently was because of the consistently good teaching from Bishop Chaput. And don't forget that this influential man didn't happen to get invited to speak by the newly "faithful" Democratic Convention meeting in his back yard. Instead, he was leading a prayer walk around a local Planned Parenthood facility. My family and I went, along with a couple of thousand other people.
Published by: bipolar2
state of nature 08/26/2008 11:04 PM EST
Rate: Bad
** Pro-Life writ large is Mass-Death **

"Pro-life" ranters are not pro-life. They are pro-birth. That dogma used to be called pro-natalism. It's an androcentric, completely misogynistic, demand that no impediment whatsoever on *births* be permitted by law.

What happens to mother and child after birth is irrelevant since the "laws" of nature will then cull weak from strong. "Pro-life" is pro-death -- the death impulse of the big-3 monotheisms in full operation. They reject the ultimate ends of human life as belonging solely to culture, and posit some totally non-existent spiritual realm.

Today's pseudo-scientific justification of pro-natalsim belongs to social darwinism (really, created by Herbert Spencer). However, that's merely a gloss on western religious demands -- 6,000 years of male domination. When will it end?

Enough of ancient paternalistic tribal customs which cannot be enlarged to become a planet-wide ethos.

As Marvin Harris made very clear: reproduction will always win against food production, leading to de-facto slavery, degraded environments, and marginal living conditions. Technological intensification makes for only short-term solutions.

It should be obvious that pro-birth is not pro-life. In fact this sick religious ideology is pro-mass-death: creating disease, poverty, and ignorance worldwide by fostering overpopulation, damning safe non-reproductive sex, and blocking responsible medical research.

bipolar2
© 2008
Published by: Dean
WI, USA 08/26/2008 08:06 PM EST
Thank you for voicing the true teachings of Catholicism! Archbishops Chaput and Weurl of Washington will be blessed for standing up and speaking to the Catholics in name only. Thanks and God bless!
Published by: Roger H. cook,MD
Xenia ,Ohio,USA 08/26/2008 03:24 PM EST
There is a whole list of senators and congressmen who are Catholic in name only,and only if it gets votes other wise they could care less about their Catholic fath. Most are democrats but not all.
Published by: brian boyle
red bank, nj, usa 08/26/2008 03:13 PM EST
Rate: Regular
PASSIVE ABORTION

In current times, sometimes a conversation drifts to politics. Some people [ Catholics ] ask me for my opinion/preference. I tell them O’Bama. Many/most of the time, the first word out of their mouth is “abortion.” They say they voted for Bush and are leaning to McCain because they say they are against abortion.
I have been thinking about this.
Personally, I disagree with O’Bama’s position on abortion. I have been a democrat who opposes abortion. But I support O’Bama because I do agree with most of his social and economic, etc., policies. This is why I support him.
So I got to thinking about the GOP, Bush, McCain, et al., and their position on abortion. They proudly proclaim to be against abortion. Yet they are for capital punishment, war, torture, etc. most importantly, their economic policies have created many more “poor” people. Then I remembered reading about how the USofA has an abysmal infant mortality rate. Especially among the poor and “minorities.”
It then struck me, that the GOP, Bush, McCain, et al. are guilty of “passive abortion.” They create the policies that prevent many from receiving prenatal care. They create the policies that prevent expectant mothers from getting medical care. They create the conditions that cause the high infant mortality! So, while they proclaim to be against abortion, they allow many babies to die from lack of health care and money. They stand by and watch this happen. This is like passive-aggressive behavior. They al
Published by: Janice Brown
Palm Desert CA USA 08/26/2008 03:01 PM EST
The Holy Spirit has spoken thru ArchBp.Chaput and also to us. I see Jesus and Mary smiling at you, Archbp.Chaput. Thank you for your courage. We also could print out this article and show it to our Pastors and volunteer with his approval to have it printed & added to the bulletin. Our people perish from lack of knowledge.
Janice Brown
Published by: Louise Laczko
Allen Texas USA 08/26/2008 02:31 PM EST
Thanks be to God for leaders like Archbishop Chaput who are not afraid to speak out and stand up for the truths of our faith. May God bless him and give him the strength to continue.
Published by: Pamela
AZ 08/26/2008 02:28 PM EST
How can Biden and Pelosi stand behind Obama when he is for partial birth abortions? I want the Catholic Church to blast this! It's about time we stopped looking the other way. If he is elected, and picks Supreme court judges, fetuses will have no one to protect them.
Published by: Mary
Baltimore 08/26/2008 02:24 PM EST
Poor Nancy! She is either lying to herself or had the worst possible education in the Catholic school system about which I have ever heard. Thank God, the bishop had the courage to properly education this unfortunate child. May she get a copy of this!!!
Published by: Romy Lenon
Australia 08/26/2008 01:52 PM EST
Abortion is against God's fifth commandment "Thou shalt not kill" which is to protect man's life against the injustice of his fellows. "God is Light and with it He illuminates everything created. God is Life, for from Him beings have received it. Even though God is a person, He is not a creature. His essence is life itself, all life takes life out of His very essence."
Published by: Cheryl Johnson
Burns, Oregon, USA 08/26/2008 01:20 PM EST
I am not a Catholic, and have not extensively studied the doctrines of the Catholic Church--but even I know where Catholics stand on the issue of abortion--and have always stood, as long as I've been around. Their position was and is unequivocal on this issue, and Nancy Pelosi's waffling about her answer on this is simply political sophistry.
Published by: Chad
Harrisburg, PA USA 08/26/2008 01:09 PM EST
With the exception of the part about Pelosi being a gifted public servant with strong convictions, I think the Bishop did a nice job responding in a clear way to Pelosi's misrepresentation of the Church's teachings.

Her statement was one of the most offensive statments I have ever heard from someone proproting to be speaking on Church doctrine. The Church has been so clear on this issue for such a long time that Pelosi's statements represent an intentional misrepresnetation.

What I can't figure out is how she could convince herself that she could make such a bald-faced lie in a public forum without being called out on it in short order.

Does anyone know where (or if) Pelosi attends Holy Mass on a regular basis? I'm curious as to whether she is indeed a practicing Catholic as she proports to be.

I also think that the Church leadership should take a harder and more vocal stance against these politicians who are openly Pro-Choice and have a voting record to back that up. Their political life in direct conflict with core Catholic teaching and the Church cannot turn a blind eye to this behavior.

Clearly these people should not be receiving the Holy Eucharist. However, they should be refraining from taking it on their own and I am stil torn as to how/if it should be denied to them by the clergy but more and more, I am leaning toward supporting absolute refusal of this sacrament to those who are in total opposition to Church teachings.
Published by: Joan L. Roccasalvo, C.S.J.
Bronx, NY 08/26/2008 12:25 PM EST
Archbishop Chaput or one of the other bishops should seek an invitation from Tom Brokaw, the current MRP host in order to clarify the Church's position on abortion. (He is not a Catholic.) His close friendship with the late Tim Russert has given him a clear understanding of the Church's position, which he tried to state, but then was interrupted by Mrs. Pelosi. Her assertions call for public rebuttal from the Church whose social teachings she finds repugnant. She has set herself as THE moral voice of the public Church.
Published by: Joe Fitzgerald
Canandaigua, ny 08/26/2008 12:10 PM EST
Thank you. Would that all Bishops use this as a teaching moment by having your letter read from the pulpits this coming Sunday as well as released to the local print, tv and radio media. Thank you again.
Published by: Ken
Atlanta, GA 08/26/2008 11:07 AM EST
Bravo!!!
Published by: PAT BECKER
LONDONDERRY,NH USA 08/26/2008 11:00 AM EST
THANK YOU,ARCHBISHOP CHAPUT,FOR YOUR INSPIRED CLARITY REGARDING THE "EVIL" OF ABORTION.
MAY MORE OF OUR PRACTICING CATHOLICS,NOT JUST THOSE WHO PICK AND CHOOSE,STAND UP AND DECLARE THE TRUTH,TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE MISINFORMED.
PEACE AND LOVE
PAT BECKER
Published by: Ozark_Sunshine
Kansas City, MO 08/26/2008 09:57 AM EST
Pelosi and her ilk are so out of touch with the Church and mainstream America and they think their words should be gospel. Time to get the Liberals out of Congress and get this country turned back to conservative values. Say NO to Democrats and their rich, perverted special interest groups.
Published by: Aubert Rose
Benton, KY 08/26/2008 09:21 AM EST
Excellently said and I agree it is truth! I am a Baptist and I wonder how the Catholic Church can continue to give communion to those who stand for abortion? I admire those who practice what they believe!
Published by: Mike McGrath
Louisille, KY, USA 08/26/2008 08:45 AM EST
I would like to see the Church be much more vocal in reprimanding "catholic" politicians who scandalize the nation in their voting records with regards to abortion, same sex marriage, and contraception. Mike (3rd time trying to send email and trying to get by the security code - difficult)
Published by: John
Scottsdale, Arizona, USA 08/26/2008 08:10 AM EST
Then why doesn't the church publicly excommunicate Pelosi, Edward Kennedy, and other so-called Catholics who support abortion? Is it afraid of losing their financial contributions? Does it realize that its actions with respect to pedophile priests make it a laughingstock when it expresses any point of view on public morality? Is it too much of a hypocrite to publish this message?
Published by: Lucius B. Gravely, IV
Ellijay, GA. USA 08/26/2008 07:05 AM EST
Well said sir! I wish that the whole statement were available to read. The debate seems to be "how many politicians can dance on the head of the abortion pin" Notice how they never answer the question of life's beginnings when they can defer to "rights" created from thin air. ("...emenations and penumbras...) as the Justice said.
Published by: Lynda Calhoun
Vancouver, WA, USA 08/26/2008 02:07 AM EST
Praise God for the Roman Catholic Church's unwavering stand against the evil of abortion. I am not Catholic but am an ardent Christian who stands with my Catholic brothers and sisters on this issue. God bless all who value life from the moment of conception.
Published by: Noreen Waters
St. Paul MN 08/25/2008 11:29 PM EST
Thank you Archbishop Chaput for correcting the very public statement by Speaker Pelosi in which she clearly wanted to add confusion to the Church's very clear teaching on the beginning of life and its teaching on abortion. Her very brazen response left me breathless and I hoped that a courageous bishop would correct her evil statement.
Published by: William
Wisconsin 08/25/2008 08:28 PM EST
WOW! And in this corner, ladies and gentlemen, we have a Catholic (arch) Bishop worthy of the title. Vivat! Vavat Pastor Bonus!
Published by: Robert Johnson
Lilburn/GA/USA 08/25/2008 06:52 PM EST
Archbishop Chaput,Thank God for your knowledge, faithfulness and clarity of voice concerning this issue. May God bless you with strength and length of days to defend the weak.
Published by: Robert Lockwood
Lafayette, CA 08/25/2008 06:23 PM EST
Like every single area of life Democrats seek to mislead - Pelosi demonstrates this perfectly.
Published by: bill
omaha ne 08/25/2008 06:01 PM EST
pelosi's faith is poorly formed. she's of the mindset that if you don't like the rules of golf, make up your own. that doesnt work for golf or truth (faith issues)
Published by: Thomas Bindi
Westerville, OH, USA 08/25/2008 05:48 PM EST
It's about time that our bishops in America stand out and put these scandalous leftists in their high-minded places. They represent the death culture. To heck with political poppycock - speak the truth and nothing but the truth. If it offends people, then maybe it's about time that people be offended - really offended, and begin to be introspective enough to fully comprehend their error.
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