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Lawsuit filed in defense of Marine vet’s anti-Islam decals
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.- A Marine veteran whose anti-terrorist and anti-Islam vehicle decals hindered him in visiting the grave of his fallen son at Arlington National Cemetery has filed a federal lawsuit challenging the military order which rebuked his display of the decals. Jesse Nieto, a 25-year Marine veteran, served two combat tours in Vietnam. His youngest son, Marc, was one of the seventeen sailors killed in the terrorist bombing of the U.S.S. Cole in October of 2000. Since 1994 Nieto has been a civilian employee at the Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in North Carolina. In 2001 he began displaying various decals on his vehicle expressing sentiments such as “Remember the Cole, 12 Oct 2000,” “Islam=Terrorism” and “We Died, They Rejoiced.” On July 31, 2008, two military police officers ticketed Nieto for displaying “offensive material.” After Nieto refused to remove all allegedly offending decals from his vehicle, the Base Magistrate issued a written order ordering Nieto to remove his vehicle from the base until all decals were removed. The order banned his vehicle from all other federal installations, and reportedly prevented him from driving onto the grounds of Arlington National Cemetery. The Ann Arbor-based Thomas More Law Center filed a federal civil rights lawsuit this week on Nieto’s behalf against the Camp Lejeune Commanding Officer and the Base Magistrate in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina. The lawsuit claims that the military’s ban on Nieto’s vehicle decals violates his constitutional rights to freedom of speech and the equal protection of the law. “The banning of these decals is political correctness run amuck in the military,” charged Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Thomas More Law Center. “Our troops are being killed by Islamic terrorists, 9/11 was caused by Islamic terrorists, these terrorists want to destroy America, the Islamic countries persecute Christians, and now the military is victimizing a father whose son was killed by Islamic terrorists while serving our nation.” Thompson speculated that the Marine command would have to eliminate the Marine’s Hymn because “the phrase ‘to the shores of Tripoli’ celebrates the Marine victory over Islamic forces in the Barbary Coast War and the Battle of Derne.” The lawsuit alleges that military officials engaged in viewpoint discrimination prohibited by the First Amendment and violated the Fifth Amendment’s equal protection guarantee by allowing some messages to be displayed but prohibiting others. Further, the suit charges that the military’s ban on “offensive” speech is impermissible because there are no objective standards guiding government officials’ decisions, thus granting them “unbridled discretion” to determine the acceptability or the unacceptability of speech, a statement from the Thomas More Law Center reports. Subscriber comments:
Published by: ANN
HAMPSTEAD, NC 28443 12/04/2008 01:55 PM EST
This is a disgrace!We need to speak out and act.I live near Camp Leguene and I will address this at our civic meeting tonight.This is an absurd violation of our basic freedoms.I've personally heard enough of what goes on at our bases.The people that serve aren't shy about telling us.WHERE ARE "WE THE PEOPLE"!
Published by: Nancy J
Camden,DE 12/02/2008 04:07 PM EST
Way to go! Bless you for saying what many of us feel!
Published by: Charles R. Helwig
Cape May Court House, NJ 12/02/2008 11:23 AM EST
This sort of government control started when we removed Bible Reading and prayer in our public schools
Published by: Two Sentz
SBY/MD/USA 11/18/2008 06:34 PM EST
Though he may have a right to display the stickers and he may be upset about his son's death, the stickers ARE in poor taste and he should have more class.
Published by: A O Lee LeFort
Jacksonville, FL USA 11/18/2008 03:49 PM EST
This is a very bad rap for a father of a slain son to have to face. He should have the freedom to express his thoughts without repercussion or be a victim of hostility. I am willing to sign any petition or form of support for Jesse Nieto.
Published by: drdonnz
chicago, il 11/18/2008 11:38 AM EST
Would it be ok for someone whose son was mudered by the Israelis during the attack on the USS Liberty to display racist anti-Jewish decals on his car?
Published by: Joann Erickson
Fairbanks, USA 11/17/2008 01:44 PM EST
Sit down and hold on, it may get worse. I hope that we will ALL have the courage to stand up to political correctness. These men and women have given their lives so that we could keep these freedoms.
Published by: Robyn W
Fort Wayne, IN 11/16/2008 12:18 AM EST
Jesse Nieto has every right to pursue this case. He served this country, lost a child, and still loves the military and this country. To be offended about something you have not experienced or to protect someone whose feelings were hurt because they can't understand something is ridiculous. Big daddy government doesn't save every kid picked on in school or bullied on a playground, why are we starting now?
I fully support Jesse, and I am ever so proud to call him my uncle!
Published by: R Walter
Albany 11/15/2008 07:22 PM EST
I hope that each of you have served your country in wartime before you second guess a Marine Colonel who has probably spent better than 30 years in active service.
Published by: Ben
Rolla/MO/USA 11/14/2008 11:35 PM EST
Out of curiosity where do Muslims serving in our armed forces fit into this man's beliefs?
But that's beside the point, free speech is our right as Americans; while there are limits in the case of safety and security, this is one case where the only thing in danger is someone's feelings. They have to get over it.
Published by: Dr. Mark Cox
Midland/TX/USA 11/14/2008 10:50 PM EST
Praise God for this man and his family. The MPs should be disciplined and the base commander removed. If the people charged with defending what this country stands for will not stand up for us, we do not deserve to survive and they will not deserve our support. If we will not stand up for ourselves, no one will.
Published by: Jimmy
PA, United States 11/14/2008 07:01 PM EST
We may have been the victims in 9/11, but remember, all these people who comment here who say that Islamic extremists are killing our soldiers in Iraq, instead of blaming a country that was invaded illegaly (thanks inpart to this boards votes on nov. 4), why not blame the person who sent them there without any justifications/proof for the invasion. It seems you evangelicals forget that more then 1 Mil, mostly children, Muslims have died in Iraq, thanks in part to Bush who brought Al-Qaeda into Iraq.
Now about the case, I'm a thousand percent sure these same people would want to go after a doctor's head if his decals were about abortion, or better yet, something along the lines of 'Stop Bombing Abortion Clinics'!
Published by: Dennis Johnson
Woodland, CA USA 11/14/2008 06:27 PM EST
The Base Magistrate should be ashamed to put on his uniform.
Published by: Christopher
Laceys, Spring AL. USA 11/14/2008 06:26 PM EST
Way to go. It is about time the military takes a step back to re-evaluate just how pathetic Political Correctness is and what it is doing to our country, let alone the world, and it there is no place for it in any branch of the US Military. PC is just one of the roots of control from the liberal leftwing advocates of the global society.
Published by: klevius
Stockholm Sweden 11/14/2008 06:23 PM EST
Not only is islam a crime against humanity but it's by far the worst ever, no matter how kindly you measure it through 1400 years of slavery & genocides!
Published by: Orlando R. La Rosa
S. San Francisco, CA 11/14/2008 02:22 PM EST
I'm a former Marine, and I'll be a Marine until I die, but I will admit, the government does go a little too far at times. The gentleman should be able to display whatever he wants on his car. If the government believes his stickers may be offensive to Islamists, that's too bad because I think the Islamists have offended us a lot more.
Published by: David G Speckhardt Sr.
Selma NC 11/14/2008 01:56 PM EST
I am a 20 year Army Veteran and to me this is another case of political correctness out of hand. If he had Christianity or Judaism kills innocent people and Christians and or Jews rejoice nothing would be said. The problem here is the truth hurts, God Bless you Jesse for standing up.
Published by: Lloyd Wilson
Lakewood, CA, United States 11/14/2008 01:55 PM EST
The left and our enemies can pretty well do whatever the want. A greiving Father is punished for First amendment rights. I'll stand by this man.
We better start backing our LOYAL citizens or we will lose them. I can see Arlington keeping the cemetery un-political but give this Father citations? Come on.
Published by: John James III
Piney Flats, Tn. U.S.A. 11/14/2008 12:15 PM EST
I support this guy 100%.
Published by: greg
Ga 11/14/2008 11:08 AM EST
Amen! It's abput time thar citizens begin fihting back against this political correctness nonsense.
Published by: Rod Wiste
Chippewa Falls, WI 11/14/2008 10:28 AM EST
Mr. Nieto: He who dares not offend cannot be honest. Carry on!
Published by: Dr. Rich Swier
Sarasota, FL USA 11/14/2008 10:03 AM EST
This is an outrage. As a retired Army Lieutenant Colonel I am seeing the Army I served in limit free speech. This is not only wrong but a bad omen for the future.
Published by: Mike Whitehead
Gainesville, FL 11/14/2008 09:59 AM EST
As a former Marine and retired Naval Officer, I find it reprehensible that the base CG would stifle "free speech", especially since that is one of the primary reasons Marines and other military people serve - protect and defend this country and the constitution. This CG sounds like he receives counsel from Congressman Murtha, that disgrace of a former Marine!
Published by: Richard
Martinez, Ga United States 11/14/2008 09:42 AM EST
God Bless America and God Bless Jesse Nieto and his son Marc. I hope that is offensive enough.
Thank you for your service and the ultimate sacrifice.
Published by: another Marine Veteran
Stockbridge/GA/USA 11/14/2008 09:18 AM EST
Where can I send a donation for the defense fund?
Published by: Bill
Sevierville/TN/USofA 11/14/2008 09:07 AM EST
Most of the "Politically Correct" policy is subjective and ignores reality. Thanks to radical Islam (is there any other kind) (riots and bombings begin at 8% of population, look at England/Eruope)we are just about strip searched to board an airplane. ALL the airline bombers have been Muslem males between 18 and 35, but it isn't PC to profile.
Published by: rickky
clt nc usa 11/14/2008 09:03 AM EST
Thank our God someone has the intestinal fortitude to challenge this insanity.
Published by: jim
va 11/14/2008 08:59 AM EST
Semper Fi
Published by: Sam Peer
Moorefield, WV 11/14/2008 08:56 AM EST
I hope Jesse Nieto and the Thomas Moore Law Center cleans the Camp Lejeune Commanding Officer and the Base Magistrate's clock. I really do. How dare a bunch of political idiots stop any one because of their views. I'm willing to bet if a raghead showed up with with a "Kill America" sticker these same jerks that denied Nieto would pee themselves trying to accommidate the raghead.
Published by: dano
jax/fl/usa 11/14/2008 08:34 AM EST
Finally, a law firm willing to take a correct viewpoint to the courts.
Kuddos to the Thomas More Law Center.
Published by: Steve Alsford
England 11/13/2008 03:12 PM EST
No-one should have the right not to be offended.
These stickers should be protected as free speech. They are no more than fair comment. Anyone who doubts that should remember one of the attested sayings of Mohammed: "I have been made victorious by terror".
Published by: Francis T
Washington, D.C. 11/13/2008 02:14 PM EST
Displaying of decals with messages is protected by the First Amendment and it is not up to the military to determine whether the message is offensive. If the message of killing terrorists or the enemies is deemed to be offensive in the military, the soldiers should not holding a Holy Cross instead of weapons.
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