Poll: Catholics likely to favor use of torture
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.- A new survey from the Pew Center Forum on Religion & Public Life claims that Catholics are more likely than the general population to favor the use of torture against suspected terrorists.

The survey of 742 American adults asked whether the use of torture can often, sometimes, rarely or never be justified. About 19 percent of white non-Hispanic Catholics said they believed that the use of torture against suspected terrorists can often be justified, while 32 percent said it can sometimes be justified. About 27 percent said the practice can rarely be justified, while only 20 percent said it can never be justified.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church condemns torture, saying that which “uses physical or moral violence to extract confessions, punish the guilty, frighten opponents, or satisfy hatred” is “contrary to respect for the person and for human dignity.”

Pope John Paul II’s 1993 encyclical Veritas Splendor, reiterating the Second Vatican Council’s Pastoral Constitution Gaudium et Spes, described “physical and mental torture and attempts to coerce the spirit” as being “hostile to life.”

Bishop of Albany, New York Howard J. Hubbard of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ (USCCB) Committee on International Justice and Peace has also spoken out against torture. He was a signatory to the National Religious Campaign against Torture’s January 9 letter to President-elect Barack Obama.

The letter asked President Barack Obama “to restore our nation’s moral standing in the world by rejecting the practice of torture.”

According to the Pew Center poll, white mainline Protestants were slightly less likely than Catholics to say torture can often or sometimes be justified, at a respective rate of 15 and 31 percent. White evangelical Protestant respondents said torture can often be justified at a rate of 18 percent, while 44 percent held that it can sometimes be justified.

The religiously unaffiliated were least likely to approve of using torture against suspected terrorists, with only 15 percent saying it can often be justified and 25 percent saying it can never be justified.

White mainline Protestants were most likely to say torture can never be justified, at a rate of 31 percent, while 26 percent of the unaffiliated shared that position.

Those who attend religious services at least weekly were more likely to support torture, with 16 percent saying it can often be justified and 38 percent saying it can sometimes be justified. Only 25 percent of regular churchgoers said the practice can never be justified.

Those who attended religious services seldom or never were least likely to approve of torture. Only 12 percent said it can often be justified, while 30 percent said it can sometimes be justified and 26 percent said it can never be justified.

CNA contacted the Pew Research Center for additional details and was told all analysis on the data had been published.

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Published by: David Silbernagel
Scio Oregon 05/05/2009 06:57 PM EST
I am a Catholic and I would say torture is not allowed by my faith or would I support it. The problem with this poll is that torture is not defined. I do not consider anything that does not inflict physical pain torture. The technices used at Gito in my eyes were not torture from every thing I understand about them. Sure mentally it was stressful but that is not torture in my eyes in most cases. I am sure not everyone agrees but I think when most people hear torture now they think of Gito and their feelings on that was it was justified and not really torture.
Published by: Manuel
Wauwatosa 05/05/2009 10:56 AM EST
Please give me a break! This is a study of 742 American adults in a Nation of over 300 million people. And then only a fraction of those. Statistically I can do better than that in proving a cat has five legs.
Published by: Mark
Powhatan 05/05/2009 09:37 AM EST
I don't think you can compare the torture of our blameless,sinless Lord and extracting vital information from an avowed terrorist who holds information that could save thousands of innocents.Our teaching is that torture violates the dignity of individuals...is that violation greater than allowing untold innocents to be murdered for a satanic cause?
Published by: Kathleen Griffin
Bronx, NY, USA 05/05/2009 09:03 AM EST
As Catholics have suffered martyrdom from torture for 2,000 years, the Pew "study" is gravely suspect. The Church, which includes all popes, has never approved of torture. Even the Inquisition was an inquiry into the views of potential heretics; the secular governments tortured those who believed "dominion was founded on grace," & refused to obey secular authorities not of their group.
Published by: LauraE
Kansas City, Mo 05/04/2009 10:36 PM EST
As a practicing Roman Catholic I am ashamed for my fellow practicing Catholics. Torture must not be condoned, especially not as a political policy.
Published by: Mark
Edison/NJ/USA 05/04/2009 07:50 PM EST
Many of the movies on TV are about violence and justifiable revenge. This is why the numbers are so high. Reading the scriptures is a better alternative to these movies and will explain to anyone why torturing someone is a sin.
Published by: The Forgotten Man
USA 05/04/2009 07:09 PM EST
It's called redemptive suffering and it all depends on what you define as torture.
Published by: Francis Xavier T
Washington, D.C. 05/04/2009 03:35 PM EST
It depends on what kind of Catholics that the racial group, Pew Center Forum on Religion & Public Life choose to interview. If they interview the kind of Catholics such as Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and Kathleen Sebelius and the 54% of the bishops who voted for Obama, it will show Catholics are flavor in murdering and torturing the innocent, voiceless, and defenseless babies. The kind of Catholics who listen the teaching of our Lord Jesus, the Gospels, and the Encyclical Letter from Pope Benedict XVI will not in flavor of torture. God is love (Agape). He loves even the most violent radicals such as Apostle Saint Paul who wrote half of the New Testament. The love of our God will floor even the most radical homo-genocidal muslims when they encounter Him.
Published by: Tim
Washington, DC 05/04/2009 01:05 PM EST
Thank you for carrying this story, which sadly reveals how inadequately most adult Catholics have been catechized in the fullness of our faith. It's shocking that so many who claim a faith in Jesus Christ would also find the use of torture to be acceptable.

Yes, Steve, torture (according to its common definition) is intrinsically evil.

I recently saw, "The Scarlet and the Black," which tells the story of Msgr. Hugh O'Flaherty, an Irish priest and Vatican diplomat who worked during WWII to save the lives of several thousand people. He found a way to successfully combat evil without resorting to evil means himself. It's that standard, the standard of a crucified and risen Lord -- and not the standard of any military, government or state -- to which we are called.
Published by: Mike Smith
Chase City, Virginia USA 05/04/2009 12:37 PM EST
Since the modern mass has too often become a form of torture it is easy to understand by frequent attenders as mass are more likely to accept torture for others. Seriously, if your kid was about to be killed by a terrorist and the only way you could stop him was by torture, don't tell me you wouldn't you do it!
Published by: Odile Brock
Washington, DC 05/04/2009 11:42 AM EST
The discrepancy between our bishops'stances and that of Catholics in this poll is extremely disturbing. If those "who attended religious services seldom or never were least likely to approve of torture," there must be something terribly missing from our religious services!

Can we honestly worship our tortured Lord on Sunday and not see Him in his tortured brothers on Monday? He came to save sinners. He never lifted a hand or denounced a single individual (he did castigate the Pharisees as a group).

If this poll isn't a wake-up call to all the clergy, what would be? It's bad enough that Catholics vote and talk pro-abortion and pro-death penalty.

The Catholic Church needs to proclaim loudly and clearly that torture, abortion and capital punishment are equally abhorrent and that promoting them are grave sins. If practicing Catholics don't hear it elsewhere, the clergy must say it in their homilies, or at the conclusion of Mass. This is too grave to ignore.
Published by: Bobette Pestana
Tampa FL US 05/04/2009 11:42 AM EST
I am HORRIFIED to think that Catholics are more apt to accept torture! I've been back in the church 2 years. Are Catholics more stupid???
Published by: Steve
Missouri 05/04/2009 11:03 AM EST
Is torture instrinsically evil? If not, then there would be situations where it would be justifiable. Would saving thousands of innocent lives be a greater moral good than using torture to exract information about an evil act?
Published by: Ruth
Oldenburg,IN, U.S. 05/04/2009 10:53 AM EST
Very disturbing findings. Someone(s) has dropped the ball somewhere.
Published by: Bert Queen
Lansing Mi. 05/04/2009 07:42 AM EST
742 people out of
1 billion, come on!
Published by: dAVID LARSEN
scituate Mass. USA 05/04/2009 07:33 AM EST
Violence is the ultimate way to resolve "non issues"!
Diplomacy is the way to resolve any issue to find a satisfactory resolution to any difficulty. Reason and good faith should be the rule in negotiations. This is "Christlike".
The amount of money spent on violence,war, weapons,guns,torture and other ways to administer death with nuclear weapons, in the name of defense is astronomical.
It's amazing that political issues can revolve around futile issues like torture that no one really cares to resolve. Violence,misery and war seem to always be the choice over peace as more and more every subject of concern is becoming a non-issue.
Published by: Jake
Cleveland, OH 05/04/2009 05:30 AM EST
What a worthless study. Justification for torture can often be found - I'm surprised it was only 80% who thought it could be justified. Just application is likely very rare - 1%, and what do they define as torture? "to extract confessions, punish the guilty, frighten opponents, or satisfy hatred" - a harsh interrogation may frighten the opponent, but that's the side effect, not the desired outcome. What's being described as "torture" isn't a medieval punishment - punishment isn't the end goal. Information extraction is the goal. This is a huge difference.

Look at the intended terrorist attack on LA. The gov't knew it was coming. Perhaps waterboarding was used to extract information - can the use of "torture techniques" EVER be justified - yes. Does practical justification occur often? No.

Is torture for the sake of sadistic torture permissible? No.

It's analogous to killing in self defense or the ending of an ectopic pregnancy by removing the diseased section of tissue.

Permissible, but truly rare.
Published by: gerkhin
Germany 05/04/2009 05:17 AM EST
How unsurprising! The blood and gory of the bible book rubs off on the religionists.
Published by: Larry
Fort Worth, Texas 05/03/2009 10:47 PM EST
If what was done at Gitmo to obtain information to save many human lives from evil was "torture"...then count me in as one more Catholic who supports that particular practice.

Larry
Published by: Patrick
Edmonton, AB, Canada 05/03/2009 08:21 PM EST
But how many of those catholics polled support the teachings of the Church in other areas. There is no way a catholic can justify torture. It goes against the Gospels and the 1st letter of St. John.
Published by: CJKpi
Douglassville, PA 05/03/2009 08:02 PM EST
After reading the memos relaeased by Obama, I do not believe that the devices used to extract valuable information from terrorists constitutes as torture. Waterboarding was only used on 3 men (who killed THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS)and helped thawt a plan to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge as well as a building in San Francisco. As well, it was only done under the supervision of a doctor and a physcologist. Waterboarding was a last resort to save lives. I, as any faithful Catholic should be am totally against torture, however, the devices used by the US are simply not torture, as they do not “use physical or moral violence to extract confessions, punish the guilty, frighten opponents, or satisfy hatred”. They don't extract confessions they don't punish, and they don't exist soley to frighten terrorists who want to kill us. They are only used to save our lives from monsters who want you and me dead.

Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!
Published by: john fernbach
Washington DC, USA 05/03/2009 07:50 PM EST
I am an agnostic, but due to my upbringing, a "Christian" one. I am horrified by the poll results. Whatever one thinks of Jesus, He taught compassion, forgiveness, mercy and love even of one's enemies. He did not advocate torture. For His followers to do so is a terrible scandal that should sadden all faithful Christians.
Published by: justin
MI 05/03/2009 06:34 PM EST
Really, torture is ok??? isn't having our savior tortured enough. I think John Paul II would be ashamed of us for ignoring the dignity of all humans.
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