San Diego officials question pastor about permits for home Bible study
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.- A California pastor and his wife have claimed that San Diego County officials asked intrusive religious questions and threatened them with fines because of a weekly Bible study in their home. The incident has prompted a national religious freedom organization to reiterate its willingness to assist anyone in a similar situation.

County officials had responded to a complaint about overflow parking by guests at a monthly dinner and Bible study held at the Pastor David Jones’ Bonita, California house for the past five years. A friend who was visiting a neighbor of the Joneses complained about the parking overflow.

Pastor Jones told KGTV San Diego that a county code enforcement officer had asked his wife Mary for details about the meetings.

"She said, 'Do you say amen?' and my wife said, 'Well, yes,'" Jones said.

"And she said, 'Do you say praise the Lord?’ she said, 'Well, yes but what does that have to with it?'"

Chandra Wallar of the county’s land use and environment group told KGTV it was the officer’s job to determine what kind of event was being hosted to decide what part of county code the event falls under.

Wallar said Bible studies are “probably in a very gray area,” adding that authorities want to ensure that parking is safe and does not block access to fire trucks or police vehicles.

Attorneys for Jones told KGTV it appeared that the county was backing away from its original warning issued in April.

The written warning to Jones noted an “unlawful use of land” and ordered him to stop hosting “religious assemblies.”

"They can stop religious activities in the courthouses and that but they're trying to stop prayer in my house," Jones complained.

Eric Rassbach, National Litigation Director at the Becket Fund, claimed in a statement that San Diego County had brought “KGB tactics” to Southern California.

"Government agents have no place questioning American citizens about how they choose to worship in their own home."

"Unfortunately this case is not all that unusual,” he added, saying “local zoning apparatchiks” across the U.S. try to shut down home-based Christian Bible studies and Jewish prayer meetings “all the time.”

“People of faith should know that federal civil rights law protects against this kind of government intrusion into matters of conscience, and the Becket Fund is ready to help,” he said.

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Published by: mike
nm 06/24/2009 12:40 PM EST
it is bad enough big brother comes and tell you how to live in your house namely zoning law which is not legal law but color of law which is bogus its a thing that is being fomented across the country wake up your freedoms are in trouble just wake up it doesnt have nothing to do with a parking problem but a first amendment problem that they the county have violated understood
Published by: Brian Brokaw
Indiana 06/02/2009 02:23 PM EST
THis was NOT a parking and traffic issue, and both (there are only two) neighbors of Pastor Jones have spoken on TV indicating that they raised no complaint. In addition, the parking was all on Pastor Jones' own 2 acres of land, along his 268 foot driveway. The county is trying to cover its mistake by making up anonymous complaints about a parking/traffic issue that never existed.
Published by: tjproudamerican
Buffalo, NY 06/01/2009 06:28 PM EST
I attend Mass regularly, but I resent these types of Christian "Martyrs".

These people appear to be running a church in an area that is zoned for residential. If they opened a hospital, would they be "martyrs" trying to protect our health?

There are way too many Christians who enjoy seeing themselves as victims.

There are way too many exhibitionist Christians who pretend that they are brave and put upon.

We have freedom of religion in America despite what all the would-be "martyrs" say.

Being self-righteous and self-adoring characterizes these Christians.

I suppose if I hold a "Prayer Meeting" my fellow "martyrs" can park on lawns and do whatever else we want.
Published by: Liz Semenchuk
Ohio 06/01/2009 11:40 AM EST
This is appalling. People can gather to celebrate birthdays, graduations, and even host parties to watch basketball and football. What does it matter what we gather to celebrate or discuss? Especially if it is peaceful? Separation of church and state was establised by our forefathers to protect freedom of religion, not to eliminate religious freedom. This type of response from the government is bordering on socialist and communist tactics. If more Americans attended prayer meetings of any denomination, we would have a less crime, violence, and prejudice in our country which is quickly losing its morality and dignity.
Published by: Ben Fischer
Dallas, TX, USA 05/31/2009 07:11 PM EST
If too many cars are parking on the street, why don't they put up signs limiting the parking on the street and write tickets or tow cars if the signs aren't obeyed?
Published by: don young
kansas USA 05/30/2009 09:51 PM EST
No mention if other large gatherings in private home are required to obtain permits as well, though the amen question was odd. Perhaps the code enforcement officer here is related to BTK? A mild protest would be for everyone to apply for a permit in mass for the next holiday gathering where almost everyone is expecting guests
Published by: Rev. Robert Johnson
Youngstown, Ohio 05/30/2009 01:22 PM EST
This is not a State dominating the Church issue. A neighbor of the home church complained about parking and traffic. It was a failure of the home church to live peaceably with its neighbor.
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