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Vatican says 'no' to use of Catholic church for Anglican ordination
![]() Bishop Joseph Grech / Archbishop Giuseppe Lazzarotto
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.- The Vatican has said “no” to the use of a Catholic church in Australia for the ordination of four women and three men as Anglican Deacons. St. Killian's Catholic Church in the Australian Diocese of Sandhurst was proposed as the ordination site after the local Anglican cathedral was closed due to safety concerns. According to The Advertiser, the ordination was set to take place at the Catholic church before the Catholic Bishop Joseph Grech of the Diocese of Sandherst addressed the issue with Archbishop Guissppe Lazzarato, who was appointed the apostolic nuncio to Australia last year. “After much discussion with Archbishop Guissppe Lazzarato and the Vatican, the ramifications were investigated,” said Bishop Grech. “The Catholic Church's doctrine on the ordination of deacons and priests is well known,” continued the bishop. “There were certain issues within the doctrine that created problems. It's the best thing for both churches.” Bishop Grech indicated that he still has a great rapport with Anglican Diocese of Bendigo's Bishop Andrew Curnow, and according to the local newspaper, the Anglican ordination is now taking place at St. Andrew's Uniting Church this Sunday. Subscriber comments:
Published by: Fr. Frustrated
Springfield, GA, USA 12/03/2009 01:34 PM EST
Is this for real??!! How can the Church even consider hosting such an ordination??!! Shame on the Ordinary for even considering it! I mean do we belong to the same Catholic Church, foundedd by Jesus Christ, or not? While I'm all for ecumenism and Christian hospitality, allowing such an 'ordination' to take place is AN INSULT to al Catholics!
My Grace, you should be ashamed of yourself for even considering it!
Published by: Peskadot
Guam 12/01/2009 07:19 AM EST
Just a scriptural note: Romans 16:1 clearly identifies Phoebe as a deaconess of the Church at Cenchrae. So, we know that the early Church definitely had women deacons. Whether the deaconess identified in Romans is the same as the Holy Orders of Deacon as we know it to day is not certain. But as Catholics we should be careful not to overstate "Truth". Sometimes our practice is simply Church discipline, such as with celibacy.
Published by: Dan
USA 11/24/2009 12:27 PM EST
The Catholic Church always works for the unification of all Christians, but not at the expense of truth.
Published by: Tomas
IN, USA 11/24/2009 09:32 AM EST
Deo Gratias! That this was not allowed what a scandal this would of been.
Published by: Keith
New Orleans, La, USA 11/24/2009 09:32 AM EST
Arthur,
This action is not snobbery. Catholic Church, in obedience to the actions and teachings of Christ, the Apostles, and 2,000 years of Church teaching, does not ordain women to Holy Orders. These people, however well intended, are protestants and it would be a scandal for the Church to not only allow the ordinations of protestant women, but protestants in general, to occur inside a sanctified Catholic Church. It's scandalous to me and to any Roman Catholic who believes in all the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. I sincerely encourage all here to take the time to study, in earnest, the real teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, which is the continuing presence of Christ on Earth and whose earthly head, the Pope, is the Vicar of Christ as he is the successor of St. Peter(Matt. 16:18). St. Paul refers to the Church as the pillar and foundation of Truth and so the Church cannot, against her mission to safeguard the Truth for all generations, allow such actions to occur which can appear as though She is sanctioning the beliefs and practices of those who protest Her teachings and Magisterial authority. I hope, in a spirit of charity to the Truth and of humility, we can begin to try to understand why the Church teaches what she does, after all Our Lord said "The gates of hell shall not prevail against her."
Pax Domini Sit Semper Vobiscum
Published by: Dan T.
Ohio, USA 11/24/2009 09:11 AM EST
We Catholics pray for the day when all Christians come back to the Church that Jesus Christ established. Until that time, no sect should use Catholic facilities to promote their doctrine that goes against the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Church.
Published by: Dan T.
Ohio, USA 11/24/2009 09:10 AM EST
We Catholics pray for the day when all Christians come back to the Church that Jesus Christ established. Until that time, no sect should use Catholic facilities to promote their doctrine that goes against the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Church.
Published by: Arthur
USA 11/24/2009 05:57 AM EST
Well thank God someone had the hospitality to offer.
This is Christian snobbery at its worst!
Sorry Joseph and Giuseppe - venue for hire, its all bricks and mortar. Pray do not mystify it!!
Published by: Brian J.
Ottawa, ON. Canada 11/23/2009 11:49 PM EST
The Anglicans left the Roman Catholic Church many years ago...when they return as Roman Catholics, then they can use a Roman Catholic Church for the Ordination of Deacons.
End of story!
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