Editors JD Flynn and Ed Condon are back this week for a candid conversation about the toppling of statues in the US; the Black Lives Matter movement; and the inculturation of Jesus and the Virgin Mary.

Editor Carl Bunderson is back by popular demand for a couple of games.

Listen to the episode below, or on your favorite podcast app! 

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